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Discussion in 'Everything Else (off topic)' started by Greenstick, Mar 2, 2022.

  1. Ron T

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    The door revolves here at work.
     
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  2. sirbuildalot

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    I talk about this topic quite a bit with people actually.

    I think a big part of the problem, is the morale at workplaces is very low in comparison to years past. Companies don't invest in employees or make them feel appreciated. Instead its bottom line and everyone feels like a number.

    How many workplaces still do Christmas bonuses, Christmas parties with maybe a raffle or gift giveaway, summer company cookouts, offer matching retirement plans, reasonable cost of living increases, etc. I know my work doesn't, and they keep chipping away at benefits we've always had, then wonder why no one stays, or wants to work here.
     
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  3. Jack Straw

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    I don’t know why there are so many job openings but I can’t imagine it’s a good thing.

    When students didn’t have to respect teachers anymore is when we lost education.
     
  4. sirbuildalot

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    The pandemic made a lot of people realize a traditional 9-5 brick and mortar job wasn’t a requirement to pay your bills and survive. Lots of work at home options. The high gas prices aren’t going to help either. Until companies up their game, things won’t go back to how they were. Slaving your life away to make a company rich just isn’t something people want to do anymore.
     
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    Which was the next day after the state(s) took away the Principals "board of education" (often in Oak)
     
  6. Jack Straw

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    My daughter just got a new job that allows her to work from home full time, that’s a $10k savings a year on car and fuel costs alone and she saves 2 hours a day not having to commute.
     
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    Two of the big reasons for many companies having excess openings is that many of the older generation that was still working said enough is enough!
    And the one that I didn't think of until recently was how many women have checked out of the 9-5...when the schools shut down and people realized some of the horsecrap that the schools were teaching, mom (and some dads) decided to home school.
     
  8. sirbuildalot

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    Very true. People that were pondering retirement took the plunge. My wife’s a public school teacher and we now homeschool. What’s that tell ya. They push wayyyyy too much garbage and try to pass it off as education now.
     
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    The big issue by me with so many small places is that the pay doesn't support the person.

    A large grocery chain near me offering full time roles. You'd be at the poverty line if you worked that job full time, and couldn't afford rent without 5 roomates in this area. You'd need to take public transportation since you wouldn't be able to afford a car.

    Essentially it's a poverty trap, and the employer is failing to keep their pay up with the requirements of the area.

    As they are now they're ok for retired folks or teens looking for a part time job, but that's it.
     
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    Less and less teens go out and get jobs too...seems like mom n dad would rather give them anything they want than "make them get a job"...because that would be just horrible! :picard:
    Then they wonder why the kids won't move out after they move back in after college (that they probably refinanced the house to pay for) :picard::picard:
     
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    A lot of it is the parents for sure. My son is 16 and works 10-15 hours a week.
     
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    I know several folks who had to move back because what their university charged for the degree they needed to get loans for, they can't pay it back if they have to pay rent as well. they're 22, owe 200K in loans and some of them have insane interest. after paying 10 years on it, the principle only budged a few grand. essentially it's a lifetime sentence.

    You used to be able to pay for college(even someplace $$$$ like yale) while working through school. That's just not possible today.
     
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    That should be accounted for ahead of time though. The costs are known upfront. Many good paying jobs don’t require college degrees. I also know many of the them get degrees for a field they never end up working in. They should make it a requirement that you work a full year or two in the field of your choosing before going to college for that field.
     
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    Add to that Daycare which shuts down every time the wind blows is $200 a week per kid. Whether the kids are there or not!

    working part time makes more sense
     
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    The automotive breathalyzer company I work for isn't short-staffed anything abnormal. Client base has gone down but is slowly coming back as people get out and about.
     
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    Disagree Earl, it’s possible BUT you have to pick school (no water parks on campus) and Degree carefully (no studying social media)

    Then read debt contracts you sign and plan on that
     
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    People are so brainwashed! "Everybody" has to go to college after high school...supply and demand...the colleges just keep raising their rates and people just keep blindly paying them! ITS CRAZY!
    If a product is not worth what they are charging, don't buy it! Especially if you aren't even sure that you really need it! How many people never even use their degree?!
    But again, I blame the parents...not helping guide their kids through this trap! (lifetime sentence as you said!) Man this stuff gets me fired up! I have worked with sooo many people over the years that were paying off college and working a job right next to me, who only had trade school and on the job training (and often time making more $ than them...especially when you figure in that I have no student loan to pay!) and they had no intention of ever working in their field of training :hair:
     
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    Agreed.

    I've always felt college in general was over rated and over pushed as a requirement to go anywhere in life. If you're half way intelligent and driven, you can succeed in almost any field. My wife and I took complete opposite routes to our careers. She was pushed from early on by her father that she "had" to get a college education. My father pushed me into the family construction business and didn't really care about college. After 20+ years of paying my dues I transitioned into a construction related field that was easier on my body. My wife became a teacher out of college and we both make good money and work similar hours.

    We both agree working sucks though, and want to win the lottery.
     
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    The trades should ABSOLUTELY be pushed more to younger people and pay accordingly.
     
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    All the places wondering where all the workers are should look at the pay there offering.

    I'm gonna say in Massachusetts, if you want your own house or a nice two bedroom apt, a vehicle and be able to go on ONE small vacation a year you need to make at least $30/hour. If a family. Forgetaboutit.

    Companies be acting like signs saying $15/hour is tantalizing to potential workers. Its not 1970 anymore. Oil price today in my town is $4.59/gallon.
     
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