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45-70 pro’s and con’s?

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  1. J. Dirt

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    I’ve always wanted one and I’m partial to older cartridges so I’ve got one on order. What’s anyone’s thoughts? I’ve never fired one but it sounds like it’s going to be a good 100 yard brush gun. I’ve got a lot of thick hunting areas (mainly going to be for deer) and I’m not concerned about recoil. This rifle is a single shot with a muzzle break and from videos and reading it sounds pretty nice. Any preferences on ammo? Bullet weight style?
     
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    I have a Handi Rifle with a 45-70, 30" Buffalo barrel (among others). It kicks like a mule with the Hornady Lever Revolution cartridges. I have also shot the Remington standard velocity cartridges with, I believe, a heavier bullet. Although I have not hunted with it, I think I would probably use the slower, heavier bullet for deer to lessen meat damage. Maybe save the Lever Revolutions for elk.
     
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    I’m kind of thinking the same with a heavier bullet. Hopes would be that bits of brush wouldn’t effect it as much. We have to slug hunt around here and the old 1 oz 12ga rifled slugs is what I’m guessing it will be similar to. A bit lighter and smaller diameter of course
     
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    DO NOT USE the 300 grain hollow points on moose. Other than that I got nuthin.
     
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    Stick with the 500 grain solids? :faint:
     
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    I would think the 300 gr hollow points would be fine on close range whitetails.
    I lost a nice bull moose in Alaska. There was 3 of us bow hunting basically, but had 1 rifle that the guy from Oklahoma brought along. A marlins guide gun 45/70, I was the only “gun guy” in the group. As soon as I seen the ammo I thought, “oh! Not what I would have brought, but I guess it’s what I got to work with”
    I hit a good bull 3 times, first shot almost knocked his front legs out from under him, so I know it was in the shoulder area. It just never got any penetration to the vitals.
    I don’t recall exactly but the bullets were around 300 gr and had a hollow cavity upfront. Might have been Remingtons. Turns out the rifle wasn’t even his, he barrowed it from a friend. He new nothing about guns…. Especially that one….
     
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    Very sad to lose an animal like that!
     
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    Yep….. spent the entire next day looking
     
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    Correction as I read my notes: the two types of cartridges I have tried are the Winchester 300 gr hollow points at a listed 1880 fps and the Hornady Lever Revolution 325 gr pointed soft tips advertised at "250 fps faster than other brands" whatever that means. The LR bullets have a pointed soft tip that is safe in tubular mags. My experience as that the Winchesters were easier on the shoulder and grouped far better than the Hornadys at a higher velocity. I have heard from another source that he had a bad experience with the LR bullets on elk. I think the 300 gr Winchesters would be fine for deer but I would try a different brand than either of these with a heavier bullet for elk! This is assuming shorter ranges in brush or timber. reload.jpg
     
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    Picking her up tomorrow!!
    Now if I can just find some ammo……
     
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    .45-70 Ammo

    Looks like you are going to be in the $2.50 - $3.00 / round range.
     
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    Nothing wrong with a 300gr or more hard cast, gas checked slug ( not hollow point). With the gas check should be able to hit the 1800 fps easily without leading. 300gr is what I use in my falling block. As I cast my own my cost is considerably less that $2.50/rnd.
     
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    Well here she is! Along with a really expensive box of cartridges! 350gr flat solid nose bullets. Hopefully they shoot well since Id like to make them last! 10BEE9B2-4027-41E8-B3B6-EE1A7CCC73B3.jpeg
     
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    I hope that recoil pad is effective. As light as that rifle looks that box of ammo will probably last a while.
     
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    it has less felt recoil than a 12g slug. 45-70 isnt that crazy of a kicker.
     
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    Honestly it’s heavier than it looks. I was surprised when I picked it up. Between the pad and the muzzle brake it is supposed to be pretty “friendly”
    Being a slug hunter, 30/06 fan and a 10ga Turkey gun guy I think it’ll be ok. :heidi:
     
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    Don’t know if I’ve ever fired 12 ga slugs… but I have shot several different 45/70s, none of them are what I would call mild off the bench. But once sighted in and under field/hunting conditions they aren’t to obnoxious. Gun weight plays a pretty big role. A ruger #3 is a good example.
    Just my experience…
     
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    I’m sure you’ll be fine, it’s not like you’re probably gonna take it out to shoot prairie dogs all day
     
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    That looks just like my CVA optima V2 50 cal muzzleloader cva-optima-v2-50cal-muzzleloader-black-stainless-1369240-1.jpg
     
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    Very nice! Guessing a CVA scout?

    I was looking at a CVA scout in .35 whelen
     
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