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Side by side battery recommendation?

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  1. Stihl Kicking

    Stihl Kicking

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    I have a 2021 Polaris Ranger 570 full size, and in cold weather it struggles to start. The manual says to upgrade to a 30 AH battery. I've been doing some research, but there's so many options. I prefer one made in the US, definitely not made in China, and is moderately priced. Does anyone have any recommendations?
     
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    Only so many batteries made in the states anymore...none cheap.
    What number does it take?
     
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    It comes with the Polaris 4014770 210 CCA 12 AH 12 volt. Any good battery isn't cheap, especially made in the USA, unfortunately that's why so much is made in China. I don't mind some other country. Appreciate it!
     
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    Boy, going from a 12ah to a 30 is a huge jump! Usually if something comes with a 12, the upgrade would be a 14 or 16...but if you have the room for a much larger battery, it won't hurt anything.
    If you can find a AGM (absorbed glass mat) battery those really hold up well...again, not cheap though...more like the upper end of the price range.
     
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    I figure to make a new box for the battery if need be. I think I need to give this a little more thought and research, I thought there might have been someone that's gone down this path already. Maybe a smaller one, like you say. Even though I keep it on a battery minder trickle charger, it still struggles in cold. Appreciate the input!

    This is from the manual, which is why I have been looking at the 30 AH.

    EXTREME USE 30 AH BATTERY (NON-EPS
    MODELS ONLY)
    If your factory-installed battery cannot maintain a charge because of operation in
    extreme cold or with multiple electrical accessories, you may need to purchase a
    30 AH battery and a battery strap bracket. Your POLARIS dealer can assist.
    Your dealer can provide any installation procedures that may differ for an
    extreme use battery. See page 92 for the part numbers of POLARIS products.
    1. Fully charge the new battery before installing it.
    2. To install the 30 AH battery, remove the existing battery.
    3. Remove the plastic spacer at the bottom of the battery compartment. Save
    the spacer for future use.
    4. Install the new battery.
     
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    Deka and Odyssey are good. Mmg lithium ion too.

    I'd be looking to put an automotive sized battery in it, if there's room. Behind a sxs, there should be room. You need the cold cranking amps.
     
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    That does look good, reasonable price and 5 star ratings on ebay. Thank you for looking into it! :handshake:
    Using an auto battery is actually a good idea too. I'm sure there's room, it sits under the seat and I thought about putting a small storage box under there also. Thank you for the suggestion! :handshake:

    I'd jump on the Deka battery, but now I have another option to mull over. Options are good. I'll let you know what I do!
     
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    What I do is, I measure the battery box (length, width and height) and buy the largest battery that will fit with the most CCA. I prefer Interstates (Johnson Controls) and Deka (East Penn Battery, both USA made.

    Have a Hawker Oddesy in my ADV bike but they are pretty expensive.
     
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    I'm going to jump in on this thread.
    I need a group 58 iirc battery for a miller trailblazer. The battery is inside and hard to see let alone service so I was thinking about going AGM. Cost aside who makes the best battery ?
     
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    For many years I’ve been having excellent results with batteries manufactured by Johnson Controls. Most recently I’ve had one last 7 years in my truck and my car is using one with a 2014 sticker on it.
     
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    Probably odyssey. Or Dakota lithium.
     
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    Going to lithium, or even AGM, you'll get a lot more juice from the same size battery, plus they last longer. I hate screwing around with small batteries like this, and I only put in AGM batteries in powersports machines anymore.
     
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    I’ve gone away from lead / acid in powersports. So far so good.
     
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    They are located just south of me about 30 miles. far as a good AGM battery, I'd recommend one of their AGM's. I to have had good luck with them. Their Optima line (made south of me) is hard to beat but not cheap. I like the Hawker's too but they are even more. Nice thing about a Hawker is you can install it in any position, even inverted. They are a totally absorbed electrolite AGM.

    If you are real flush, you can buy yourself a Lithium-Iron storage battery, but they are stupid expensive. Totally sealed too. Again, I'd measure the tray and buy the largest (Group) battery that will fit. Your alternator or generator won't know the difference.

    I have a Lincoln Ranger and I put in a battery almost 2 times larger than what it came with. I also put charging lugs on the case so I could hook up a battery tender when I'm not using it.
     
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    I've had great luck with Interstate batteries and they appear to be made in the U.S.
    It may also help to make sure you're using the correct weight of engine oil given the ambient temps. Going to a multi-weight rather than a straight-weight oil may also help.
     
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    Here is battery 101 for everyone...

    Never buy any battery from a mom and pop shop. Flooded cell batteries begin their useful life when the electrolyte is added so if it's sitting on a shelf collecting dust, it's also petering it's life away. Just because you bought it, don't mean it's new. It isn't.
    Brings me to the next point, never buy any battery with dust on the top. Dust on the top means it's old and petering itself out.

    Always buy ANY battery from a volume retailer. Chances are the battery will be fresh and not stale.

    Always trickle charge any new battery before putting it in service. Trickle charge it at less than 2 amps, at least overnight. Batteries all experience sacrifical discharge sitting.

    Finally, clean the posts and the cable clamps until shiny with a post/terminal cleaner. Harbor Freight sells them for 3 bucks. Good investment and when you put the clamps on the posts. smear on di electric grease. Keeps them from oxidizing.

    I usually buy my starting batteries at a truck dealership. They go through batteries like water. Second would be Wally World and 3rd your local auto parts emporuim but apply the dust on the top rule always.
     
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    What's funny is that optima batteries really went down in performance/ quality after Johnson controls bought them out. I like supporting JC, as they are minutes away from my house. But the new optimas are nowhere near as good as the old pre JC ones. I had an original pre JC optima red top that lasted close to 20 years.

    I hope this guy does more tests on other AGM and adds lithium batteries to his tests.
     
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    Back in the day I put a yellow Optima in my Acura. It didn’t last but about 2 or 3 years. I was shocked but it died, and from that point I’ve never trusted them again. Guess I got an oddball.
     
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