Location of new IS [Progress] stove

Hello,

I’ve been reading this forum I’m for the last few weeks and have seen a plethora of what stove to buy where to place it posts, so I apologize I’m advance for adding to the pile. I placed an order for an ideal steel stove that I had planned on placing in the basement (unfinished 600sq/ft) for secondary heating of our home. We live in western Wisconsin and use propane as our primary heating medium, if I could use one less propane tank a year I’d feel really good about the investment.

details on home

first floor open floor plan outside of an office measuring 14x16 total square footage is around 1000

second floor has a loft/entertainment area and three bedrooms so far less open and about 1400 square feet

Current furnace is 85k BTU keeps up to about -20

home built in 2006 seems to be week done basement is original from 1927 for permitting reasons

not looking to heat the home purely on wood at least at this time with a single stove.

plan was to install in basement but reading here I may have been dissuaded and may wish to move it to the first floor. Question is will a basement install add some heat to the whole house without being finished/insulated? If I need to place it on the first floor I was also consider moving to the progress as I believe it to be a better looking stove. Any input would be appreciated


Pardon any spelling or grammatical errors as I typed this on the phone


Have a great day
Jeremy

 

Either stove will heat the living space better from the 1st floor. Some people use ducting to help with heat distribution.

If i had a basement i would decide on insulating it or not depending:
- enough living space above -> dont need to insulate
- stove in basement -> definitely insulate and provide 2 places (out & in) for air to circulate
- wine and/or root cellar in basement -> dont insulate unless too cold
- etc.

 

No sir, no apologies needed here.
We're here to help.

Welcome to the club, hadowajp !
And thanks for joining up and posting.

 

If you want to heat the second floor, I'd guess you'd want the wood stove on the first floor.
Basements (unfinished/uninsulated) are notorious for sucking up a lot of heat.
I didn't get much heat on the main level till i sectioned off the stove room and insulated it with 1/2" rmax.

 

Unfinished, uninsulated basement from '27=approximately 1/3 of your heat being donated to keeping the earthworms warm through the foundation in all likelihood. Not to mention your sweet new stove will be hidden from daily enjoyment.

I am biased against basement installs, through wall venting with 90's and trying to utilize old junk masonry chimneys. All have caused me heartache with negative pressure issues, poor draft etc.
Your best utilization/efficiency of the stove would be to centrally locate the stove on the main floor as much as possible. Straight up and out venting. Double wall slip joint connecter pipe from the stove up to nice Class A stainless insulated chimney pipe (not air cooled triple wall). Just a few things I've learned the hard way

 

My sister has a wood stove in her basement, but the basement is a mostly finished raised ranch. It warms the living room/kitchen open room above it rather well, but the bedrooms are down a hallway and they can get a little chilly in cold weather.

My mom has a wood stove in her unfinished basement, old farmhouse and it works surprisingly well. It's located right near a set of stairs and the stove heats the floors and the heat goes right up the stairs. Heats her back room, kitchen and living room. When the stove is pumping too much heat she opens the unused bedroom doors, when it's really cold she keeps the bedroom doors shut.

I had a wood stove in my previous house in the unfinished basement and it work well, too. Simple ranch. Heated the floors and the heat also came up the stairs as long as the basement door didn't get shut. The basement door was right near all three bedroom doors and they heated up as long as the doors were open also. The living room could be a little chilly in really cold weather but the thermostat for the gas furnace was there.

 

It would surely supplement your heat "somewhat" in the basement...but provide most or all of your heat located upstairs...

 

Thank you all very much, after reading the firewood manual (glad I ordered two cords already) and Wisconsin building codes I am definitely leaning towards placing the stove on the main floor.

 

Welcome to the FHC hadowajp
If it were me, get stove you want put on first floor and enjoy

You need a lot more than 2 cords

 

Being in a climate where you're seeing temps down to -20 would have me wanting the stove on the first floor rather than the basement.
Stoves tend to become the focal/gathering point in the home... sometimes even when they aren't running. I'd put it in a place you'll enjoy spending time.

 

Yes I assume I’ll need much more than 2 but I also don’t believe I will see this stove for another year and have some time to add some of my own wood.

 

Is the stove delivery schedule a full year out? I'd be tempted to install the pipe, hearth and a cheap beater stove to play with this winter. Then you will know how nice the IS is! If nothing else keep stockpiling wood.

 

Stockpiling is easier if you aren't dwindling it away in a cheap beater stove!

 

Pretty much the same logic as so you it'll feel good when you stop.

 

Even a cheap beater stove, as long as it's reasonably modern like EPA certified, won't be that much less efficient than the IS. On paper it might be 10% less efficient and in real life use 25% more wood. A cheap NC30 from home depot, something like that?

 

25% "more" is still 100% "more" than just building your stockpile and not burning at all...and your HD still sellin NC30's are they?!

 

a used nc30 that originated from Home Depot, as many did for 600$. The nc30 is now the nc32.

Some folks spend thousands of dollars per year heating with oil or propane. Plenty of budget for a temporary stove and even manufactured fuel.

 

If you put it in basement, it will do a great job heating the basement, all the other floors not so much.

First of all, in an uninsulated raw concrete walls basement you'll lose 40% of the heat into the walls of the basement. That's 40% of your woodpile down the drain. Then depending on the floor plan of the house you'll get a bit of heat, here or there, but again, it will be unpredictable and most likely not do much. You'd be wasting time and money putting it in the basement.

Not familiar with your floor plan or where the chimney is located, but if you can get the stove on the first floor, you will get much more effective heat for both floors, again depending on how the heat will travel to the 2nd floor. But it will, heat rises. So if you can let the doors of the bedrooms stay open a good deal of the day and just let that IS do it's job, you'll be MUCH better off on your heating and very well may meet your goals or even exceed them depending on how well you keep up with the burning.

I have an open floor plan with a loft and master bedroom on the 2nd floor. I have a Fireview on the first floor, it heats the house 24X7 all 1600 sq ft so well, that I need to turn on the heat in extremely cold weather so my forced hot water pipes don't freeze.

So you've got more sq footage but a similar set up (sounds like anyway). Stick around and learn. Also, we want pics! The more pics, the better!

Steve aka Oldhippie