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Engine overheat help

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  1. Warner

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    Out of curiosity what did the stealership diagnose the problem to be?
     
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  2. MasterMech

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    Hard to tell from behind my desk! :doh: (Cue Flintstones, "It's a living!") But the point of a vacuum fill tool is that it leaves little doubt. The downside would be that you have to drain all the coolant to do the fill process.

    What I'm concerned about is that the issue appeared out of the blue, (not after some coolant system work) and that you seem to be able to get it working fine and then the issue returns. If you were paying me to figure it out, I'd do the pressure test (because it's cheap/fast/easy), and pull the plugs. If the plugs are indicating coolant getting into the cylinders (bright white insulators), I'd recommend the teardown, especially if the pressure test was a fail or marginal. If there was any doubt at that point, the combustion gas presence test would be next up, prior to the tear-down.

    Everybody's situation is different, but in general, it's not worth it to half-azz a head-gasket repair. Most engines (including/especially a Subaru) these days are a fair bunch of labor to get them torn down and there's a few little parts that will get replaced "while you're in there". It'll hurt more than 2x bad if you have to repeat the job, just in lost time. I'd want some actual assurance that it's a gasket issue, and more often than not, those come from other mechanical issues (like a warped head) on engines that have not been touched since new. Since this is a Subie, you'll have two heads to worry about, and if some event has caused this head gasket to fail, the opposite side is likely to follow suit sooner rather than later. You don't have to do both gaskets right now, but you should be prepared for that eventuality and you should ask how much labor you would save by checking the other head now, with the engine torn down. If this is a vehicle you must rely on, send the heads to a reputable automotive machine shop to have it inspected for cracks/leaks and the deck surface restored. The deck surfaces of the block can be checked with a precision straight-edge and feeler gauge after being cleaned up. Anything less is gambling, and too many shops are plenty willing to gamble with your money.

    You'll know better than most what the car would be worth to you with the engine back at 100%. At 112k, what else is wrong with it? Has it been well-maintained or is it a "beater with a heater"? If the car isn't really worth doing both head gaskets - I'd probably try the K&W.
     
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  3. Creekin

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    I'm doing a 2012 Cherokee 3.6l right now, needs drivers head gasket
    With all parts needed and sending out the heads its cheaper puttung a low mileage unit in
    Has about 212,000km, found used with about 50k
     
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  4. Well Seasoned

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    Head gasket leak, water pump and timing belt along with the radiator
     
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  5. fire_man

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    I'm guessing he said the water pump just because it makes sense when you change the timing belt. The root cause sounds like the head gasket.
     
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    It seems, so I'll probably do it. The water pump and timing belt go about this time anyway and i knew that when i bought it
     
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  7. fire_man

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    These days with the cost of used cars I've been plowing money into my old stuff. Fortunately I'm retired so can do the work myself. Had a leak in the Power Steering system and got a quote for $2K. I found the parts on Rockauto and Amazon and did the job for about $150. Its mostly labor.
     
  8. Creekin

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    When the transmission in the crv started acting up i was able to gimp it along, looking at used anything was frustrating
    People asking big $$$ for junk

    Ended up swapping it out, found used for $300, hate working on my old junk, but hate walking more
     
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    They verified it...like 100%, not just take a swag at it and "next!" ?
     
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  10. fire_man

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    I have not heard of too many CRV transmisson troubles. What year is it and had you been changing the fluid?
     
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  11. Creekin

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    1997, and I hate to admit that I did not change the fluid
    Has close to 350k on it,
    After fixing cars all day it kinda just gets pushed to the side
     
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  12. brenndatomu

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    Yup...a mechanics car is like the cobblers kids feet...worn n neglected! :whistle: :rofl: :lol:
    Nah...it not often like that...completely (unless a junker POS car maybe) its just that most mechanics know the difference between "I'll need to look at that soon" noises, and "crap, now I'm gonna hafta deal with that tonight too!" noises... o_O :rofl: :lol:
     
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  13. Creekin

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    The last 4 cars were junkers! Done things to those cars that i should never admit to, i usually save cleanish used oil when changing customers oil to dump into them, filter now and then
    As some parts wear they get removed (as long as reasonable safe)


    ****just want to be clear, customer cars get repaired with reliability and safety in mind, i do take pride in my work****
     
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    I hear ya...I may have had some "DOT rated" lumber :whistle: in my old Tempo until it was all over...gotta keep them rusty strut towers in their place ya know! :D
     
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    Funny you mention a tempo, worked on my share years ago, and then they just vanished
    Seems the ones i see driving around are in ridiculously good shape, virtually no rust!!
     
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    My olds Calais quad 4 ( olds version of the grand am) had a ratchet strap to"fix" the rusted strut tower and engine mount. 330k on it. Milkshake oil for at least 165k. Lol. It ran. Didn't care that it had a head gasket issue. It was probably the last and only reliable gm product I'll ever own.
     
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    With 350K I'd say you did great and it makes me wonder if I even need to change my fluid!
     
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    Subarus are popular around here too. There's more than one independent shop around that specializes in them. Might be worth finding one in your area. They're used to dealing with head gasket problems.
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    Basically exhaust gases in the coolant.
     
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    Well, I'm getting put through the ringer! Been driving the F250 to work for the past week+ since the lezbaru is down. First time ever.... today Left turn signal blinking fast, ok needs a bulb. That stopped happening, went out for lunch, right turn signal blinking fast, i thought, oh no, now what. Heading back from lunch, turn signals back to normal..... Fast forward, driving home tonight, ya know it's dark, both turn signals blinking fast, 2 ppl flash me with their lights, im like WTH is going on! Get home, Ive got no rear running lights, no brake lights, no rear turn signals, and no liscense plate lights. Yeh! Another vehicle im crawling through the snow trying to find a short in the dark with a headlamp! No luck but to pizzed to look any further!

    It could be anything, and electrical aint my thing really. These Fords have at least 2 common wear points that i heard of, both up front near the driver headlight and another driver tire area. Ford has decent scematics (sp?) for the techs, but i couldnt find any. Local ford dealer whom i actually know and trust booked out nearly 2 weeks so I have yet another problem to solve before then.

    Chit is coming in waves here boys..... But it is what it is.,
     
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