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New Insert Install

Discussion in 'Modern EPA Stoves and Fireplaces' started by foragefarmer, Oct 25, 2013.

  1. foragefarmer

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    Fire! Breaking her in. Right now. Throwing some fumes now. ​

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    Looks good. Another break in fire later.... pics expected
     
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    1. A lot would be my guess.

    2. It had a blower but it was generic and you sort of stuffed it in there and hoped. Doubt if it generated more than 80 cfm.

    3. 6-8 cords heating +- 2000 sq ft.

    4. Had the fisher style knobs. I never liked to turn it below .5 of a turn at .5. About 8-10 hours with oak. 1.5 turns was about my max I liked to go about 3-4 hours at 1.5.
     
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    Going hunting have a buddy down from DC. He needs a freezer stuffer.
     
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    That's a LOT of wood for one stove.
    8-10 hours isn't bad if I am reading that right.
    I wonder how the heat from the new stove will compare to the old stove.

    I have found that the old stoves threw more heat than the new stoves. But, you had an unlined insert with a bad blower set up. Looking forward to hearing how different the two stoves are.
     
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    Set at what I considered low .5 turns on the knobs I got 8-10. On max 1.5 or so turns of the knobs 3-4. So in January-February I would stoke at 10pm -up at 2-2:30 stoke- at 8 I would stoke- back at lunch to stoke get home at 4 stoke moderate stoke at 8 load up for the night again at 10. These are 40-60 pound loads of 99% well seasoned oak.

    Yeah, my sweep was amazed at how much wood I burnt through the old stove and how little creosote he got out of the chimney. I learned about dry wood long before the internet.

    I am hoping I can get similar heating from less wood.
     
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    I'm hoping the new stove does not disappoint. I know some of those old stoves were heat bombs.
     
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    Doesn't instill confidence.

    That blower on the old one was a disappointment. I think if there had been a better setup blowing 120 cfm that thing would have been a heat bomb. But 8" outlet and cranky old chimney meant no liner for the old stove. And the new one is not small. Just smaller than what I was used to.
     
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    If your old stove was a free standing stove with a liner I would be a little concerned. But, your old stove was probably maxing out in term of how inefficient it was. So, you would think you would be in good shape.

    I would imagine your old stove was throwing a TON of heat up the chimney.
     
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    I would say for sure you will use less wood. The firebox on these new stoves is generally measured to include the area above the baffle or in essence without the baffle in place which I think is very misleading. But if she keeps you warm that's the main thing.
     
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    Alright so final pics.

    loaded the guide line with a 32mm socket.

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    Got the ladder strapped in and the guide rope started down the chimney.

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    And fed liner down the chimney. Once I got it started I sort of climbed down the ladder and climbed up a few rungs to get a good curve to the liner and called my helper to pull a couple more feet down the chimney the last 5 feet fell down the chimney.

    Got the cone off.

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    And the connector on. The liner wanted to slide down the chimney. Went back up the ladder and wedged it on the smoke shelf and moved the insert back in the fireplace. Then slowly worked the liner into the hole. Took some work to get the bends correct and the connector well seated.

    Then went back up the ladder and put on the top plate and cut the liner to length and seated the the cap.

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    When I ordered the liner I measured 24' 10" to the old stove so I ordered a 30' liner kit to be n the safe side. the liner kit ended up being almost 1.5' over length. Probably not normal and I would have ordered a 30' kit if I had it to do again.
     
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    May not ever be an issue, but if I read your post correctly it sounds like you do not have any screws in your liner to stove connection. Unless you just didn't mention it, but looking at the tight fit it would be tough to do unless you could get a self taper in from inside the stove. The only reason I even mention this is the possibility of an off gas ignition blowing the connection loose. As long as this never happens you should be fine. Just thinking safety for a brother wood burner.
     
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    Awesome pics and install foragefarmer. How far do you have the new stove extending into the room? Same stove im looking to get this spring, hope its working out great for you.
     
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    The amount of steady heat is far different from the old smoke dragons we where used too. The coal is where the most efficient point is ! It is a whole new ball game but I bet you are gonna like the results.