Think is Man that causing Climate change? Read this...

Willie Soon..
I trust him

 

There must be some common ground between the many different camps on this issue. Regardless of what you believe, do you think we can all agree it’s probably in everyone’s best interest to just generally try to pollute less as time goes on? I think that’s been the general trend since the space age anyway (at least in developed countries) Years ago acid rain was a huge problem and we seemed to have gotten that down to “acceptable” levels. Same thing with the ozone layer and regulating certain aerosols that were highly detrimental. After massive deforestation across the United States as it was expanding westward, we now have millions of acres of protected land where second or third growth forests are thriving. All is not doom and gloom.

 

Why try after many many unsuccessful attempts? It’s a slippery slope to begin with.

 

Agreed.
Pollution definitions have become political.
IMHO
CO2 is not pollution.
The "ozone hole" science is far from settled.
The agenda of those pushing these "doom and gloom" outlooks is 1984.
Ron White said " I had the right to remain silent, but not the ability"

I encourage everyone to do the research and question the "experts"
My experience shows they always have an agenda

 

Unless it is on cnn then is is gospel. They never ever lie.

 

Follow the money. It always leads to the millionaires pockets.

 

here it is in math just trying to get people to think

 

Does not compute

 

Just checked in to see if WeldrDave was still arguing with himself...I see he is!! Love you Brother!

 

Sad, but true.

 

Lots of thought wasted on this debacle of a thread

 

I admit to wasting thoughts, but sometimes you need to waste away to keep your sanity.
I went to the "study" referenced in the article. Read the first 11 pages. The authors pulled together scientific papers on TSI and show how different data sets and different analysis of those datasets by different groups leads to different conclusions.
There point seems to be the science is not settled and more data is needed and it is premature to assume that the sun does or does not have a significant impact on climate overtime.

 

Those countries are doing what we did 60 years ago. Our air and water quality were horrible until the 70’s. Remember the Cuyahoga River fires? Yes the water had so much crap dumped in it that in caught fire multiple times and would burn for days. I’m glad we learned from that.

 

jrider thats true BUT many things lasted longer, refrigerators etc. in 2000 I was in SE Indonesia and saw children melting circuit board to collect precious metals outside and kids were unmasked