Climate change (VIEW POINT)

You are certain of this how?

Seems like opinion and not fact.

 

OK.. I'll wade into the waters.

I cannot say that humans are the reason for climate change. The whole thing is very complex.

But at nearly 8 Billion people on the planet, I have a hard time thinking we are not affecting the planet and the environment.

The Goog says the US is around 4.25 percent of the global population.

We do have a very large carbon footprint, but even if we reduced it to zero, we would not be as important as the rest of the world's countries that are "improving".

After all, most of the "undeveloped" countries will desire the same luxuries.

In nature population is controlled by resources (food).. humans can adapt the environment to our desires.. therefore we live outside of the bounds of nature's restrictions.

Funny though, our politicians would rather hold the "big stick" on what we're allowed to eat/drive/do, but ignore the fact that uncontrolled population growth defeats ALL their misguided attempts.

If 4.25 out of 100 people stop eating beef, the cows won't notice.

BTW WeldrDave I haven't seen any green men or women since St. Patrick's day.


Just sayin

 

Having been to Labrador I can attest to the fact that in these remote areas when a forest (or scrubby spruce) fire starts there is no way to “fight” it. They just let it burn out. Miles upon miles of burned toothpicks up there.

 

Maybe...but its a mouse fart in a tornado compared to wildfires, volcanoes, etc etc.

Tree food...

 

8 billion and counting is a pretty big mouse.

 

BTW.. I'm certainly not saying I have any solution.

 

OK.. this is an extremely simplistic scenario.

The human body averages 98.6 F degrees
(~33°C).

So you put 100 people into a small room, given time, the temperature would average out to near body temperature.

Increase the number of people, you get closer to average body temp, minus losses within the structure.

Earth expels heat into space, I have no clue on rate of heat exchange.. but if you exceed the exchange rate, then the heat is retained.

Everything affects everything in some minor way.

 

I live well above current sea level (~1900 ft), but some of the rocks I've been digging up have fossils from oceanic shells.

Some are very smooth and rounded, which would indicate they likely saw some water currents that rolled and smoothed them.

 

Yeah, we're a blip on the timeline of history.

As to the windmill farm, my biggest complaint is that the money won't stay local.
$.02

 

Chaz not trying to single you out. But several of us here have traveled world. Parts of the oceans you cannot swim in because of pollution. Particularly around poorer countries with high population areas.
When you watched Beverly hillbillies uncle Jed shot and crude came up. Well is 3/4 of world is water it happens there too.

I am certainly not saying pollute; hey we only borrow this world from future generations. However, abject poverty in South East Asia, Africa, India people do what they have too to survive. Example our soldiers are coming home with lung disorders from burning human waste BUT I saw 7 year olds sitting over fires melting circuit boards for precious metals. Fumes were nauseating and guaranteed toxic

 

I take no offense, I've been to Korea, Phillipines, and Japan (fly through with an overnight stay) so I can understand your viewpoint.

We will not likely ever solve abject poverty in other countries, that's not our mandate.

I don't think the US can or should be tasked with resolving the problems in other countries.

Certain parts of the ocean have been overfished due to either lack of regulation, or enforcement.

But I certainly wouldn't want to be discussing the subject with any commercial fisherman here either.


Balance is obviously a fine area, we just have a hard time in finding that point.

 

I always found this fascinating. It's amazing what fishermen have dragged up in their nets from the bottom of the North Sea, everything from Woolly Mammoth tusks to hunters' spear points. Civilization goes on...

Doggerland - The Europe That Was

 

Yes it is intriguing. We live in ancient flood plains, totally different soil than other places. We have tons of glacial barrens where the glaciers just destroyed the land and it’s all big rocks strewn about and good gravel soil. Up north in the farmland is all smooth rich soils. Very diverse.