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Barn going up.

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  1. brenndatomu

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    What's a few years? I've seen FR in a city street fail catastrophically in 5 years...not saying there weren't other factors involved (probably were) but no way WWF would have been that bad, that fast.
    Totally agree with the WWF being hard to pull up while standing on...that's why I like using the stands, but you just don't see many crews use them...too "detail oriented" for most guys I guess...
    Little 'crete reinforcement pun? I'll stand by/on it... :picard: :rofl: :lol:

    Anyways...I'll let this lil derail go...back to the amish pics :ithappened:
     
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  2. eatonpcat

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    Hmmm...not a civil guy, but I also never said I would design any street with FR. We are talking about a slab on grade in a home owners barn. We will agree to disagree on this one Brother. I see a guy building a garage out of pallets on here that I would be afraid to sit in, yet most are saying it looks great! Different strokes, but the good news on that one is if/when it fails there will be no structural engineer to blame!
     
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    It all starts and ends with the subgrade. If there’s any clay we muck it out and fill with sand, or stone if it’s wet. With the frost being such a factor, we try to keep the area drained for a couple feet below the surface.

    Wire and rerod probably help more with shifting than small cracks. But if it shifted that bad, there’s nothing that’ll stop it without being 16” thick.

    Coming from a 27 yr concrete mason, wire sucks. Rerod sucks. FM ftw
     
  4. huskihl

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    The fiber mesh didn’t fail. But the guy doing the draining/excavating/compacting did. If the ground moves underneath, any hard surface above will follow it
     
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    Maybe not technically, but it sure failed to hold the 'crete together in a way that offered any real structure...looked like a pile of big stones kinda sorta held together by a spider web. Like I said before, probably other things going on there, I wasn't directly involved in the "diagnosis"...that became ODOT's problem. (state rd/city street)
    But like Brian said, a barn/garage floor and a city street are two different animals so...
     
  6. eatonpcat

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    Hopefully we can get some barn photos and put and end to this...But if it were up to me, I say Post-Tensioning is the way to go!!

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    Pre, or post, post tensioning? ;) :p :rofl: :lol:
     
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    The roof going up.

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  9. Eckie

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    They are rollin!
     
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    Looking more like a barn, and less like organized toothpicks!
     
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    And now the only there side.
     

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    Looking good! But you know what's missing...??? A lean-to on that side!
     
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    Got that side of the roof done. A lean to on top that side is going to be a project for another day. Just can't work it into the budget this year. We decided to have him do 3 sliding doors that we were going to put off. That alone is adding another $1500.
     
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    You guys can do the lean to on your own some day. Man that is looking good! Congrats to all!!
     
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    Thanks. Working on the north facing walls..
     

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    North side is done and working on the south side.
     

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