Guys, I drug home a 200 dollar special this morning. (Pictures below) It’s not quite right. It dies at the end of the stroke like a “deadhead” situation. This happens at end of stroke going forward or return to start unless you move the lever to neutral pretty quick. I suspect it’s a single stage pump and it has a Briggs and Stratton 5hp ohv engine. The two stage was in the box of stuff that came with it. The front seal is out it appears. I have a new pump, and cylinder if I need to on hand in my “might need this” box. I don’t see a relief valve or vent like in my Timberwolf TWP-1 so kinda curious about the setup. Thoughts on how to get it up and running or diagnosing? It’s a project, I kinda wanted to get it working to do vertical splits. (The Timberwolf is horizontal only. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
For $200, You practically stole that thing! Great deal! If I remember right, the pressure relief bypass valve is built into the pump on most of these splitter pumps. Maybe it is stuck or someone adjusted it to a higher pressure than the motor can handle. If you have a spare pump, I'd swap that on and see if that fixes your issue. I honestly haven't had much luck with those vertical Briggs on a splitter. If the motor ever gives you trouble, the Predator 6.5 horizontal engines ($100 from Harbor freight)are a pretty easy conversion and a much better motor in my opinion. Sent from my SM-S727VL using Tapatalk
Or you could get a vertical shaft predator too. Yes, you got a great deal on it. If you have a spare pump, try that.
The pump looks like a MTE 2- stage. A 5 hp. engine if healthy would only handle a 2.5 to 3 gpm single stage pump which would be very slow. The relief is typically built in to the control valve on consumer grade splitters. The 2-stage pumps only have a bypass that operates when switching from high flow /low pressure to high pressure /low flow.
So I got a little done but can’t go back to the store to get fluid and a piece of hose for the suction side till after a certain 7 year old’s nap is done. But she wasn’t tired as she stretched out on my chair in the shop. So here’s what I had to put on. I took off this one. The one farthest from the camera. They said it came off a snow plow. I am curious what it is so I can repurpose it someday. The green one close to the camera was the original per the seller. It had a seal out he said. I’m worried that motor may not be a 5 hp as said and after I get fluid and the suction hose, I’ll test it again. Then drain once more if all looks to be working and change the filter. It’s pink and foamy what came out. Per another poster, if the engine is weak or too small, I’ll get a predator from Harbor Freight. I picked up an 8hp to replace a vanguard on my mower bagger that has been nothing but excellent earlier this year. Stay tuned... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
LAUGHING ! I don’t have the courage to take one out of her kitchen. I got about 10-12 of these heavy duty cookie sheets from a restaurant going out of business sale long ago and they work great for things like this. Got the pump on and refilled oil. Also replaced the heater hose suction hose that had been installed with a proper hose. Now to solve the no start problem that’s came up. It pops and try’s but not enough to go. I tryed ether, pulling the plug and checking for spark and priming the bulb more and more. The spark was yellow across the plug so I’ll look at that today. Got tired of yanking on the damm thing. I personally know of two boat motors laying in the bottom of a lake because that is NOT one of my favorite past times! That Briggs and Stratton is on borrowed time... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Take the recoil off of it. Then you can use a drill and socket to spin it until it starts or you smoke your drill.No chance it has a low oil shut-off switch on it, is there?
Doubt it on the low oil switch. OA briggs tech on that one. Plus he said there was spark, so the low oil cutoff stops spark. Could be low compression bor valves out of spec. Old style Briggs suck to start, the colder outside the worse it gets. So how would converting from vertical shaft to horizontal? The big thing is the pump mounting. Looks like it has an adapter to mount the pump right on the engine, so that shouldn't be an issue. I will say that we went from a really old Briggs 5hp to a new 6.5 hp predator, it was a massive improvement.
Got it started! It was a bit of dumbass that caused me to have to crank on it a thousand times. So I changed plug, then pulled carb and cleaned it by blowing out. Then off the top and cleaned and adjusted coil and then pulled flywheel to check shear key. No bueno. Then I looked at the control valve. It had died the last time in the auto return detent and I couldn’t pop it too neutral in time so it was still there. It seems to stick hard in auto return. I had to get a pry bar and pop it off the detent. Once in neutral, engine spun normally and started up in a few pulls. Tomorrow I’ll take the control valve detent end apart and clean the bearings used there for detent so it’ll work properly. And I have to find a spring to connect the hand throttle lever to the governor lever. It was missing. But it’s working! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Still a bit of a bear to start. It’s became a challenge now to get this thing to run right. Got the governor spring in and learned about the primer system today that isn’t working so also got the replacement gasket for that to try. Short version is the primer that is built into the air cleaner rather than the carb works differently than a squirting fuel type most are used to. It’s pressurizes air into the float bowl to force fuel up the emulsion tube into the carb. No good seal on the air filter to carb and no good primer. Good ol YouTube. We will see after these parts get installed. PS Dear Secret Santa, an electric start 8hp 4 stroke engine with a charging circuit would be awesome! Just kidding. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I remember messing with all that. I swapped to electric this year and then scored a free speeco 22 ton for the stuff away from the power outlet. The electric spoils ya....especially with a 4 way. Just the sound of the pump whirring and the crackle of wood busting open. post up some vid when you get it going right.
