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I thought it was a Silver Maple

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  1. SD Steve

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    20200830_213131.jpg Ok, so in a previous post I said that I thought the mature tree in my backyard was a silver maple. But after i saw the leaves of what a friend said was definitely a silver maple. Now I dont know again. I looked at Norway maple and Black maple........I have no idea. What do you guys and gals think. Here is a picture of a freshly picked leaf from it, with a bottle of pop next to it for reference.
     
  2. Eric Wanderweg

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    Definitely not silver. Maybe someone from Vermont or Canada can give a positive ID. I hear those people have maple syrup instead of blood coursing through their veins.
     
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  4. definitely aint silver maple the silver maples ive seen got thinner leaves and if u turn it over it should have a silvery / whiteish color to it
     
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    Big leaves are reminiscent of Norway. If they get yellow in the Fall and are the last maple to drop then its Norway. Not familiar with black maple. If the bark resembles ash, then its Norway.
     
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    I think you may be right. They do turn yellow, and now that you mention it, the bark does look similar to ash.......hmm. when the sun is out again I will get a picture of the whole tree, seeds and the bark.
     
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    I was thinking that was Norway maple. It's absolutely not silver, I can guarantee that. Norway maple is a bit better than silver maple on the BTU scale, so it's a win for you. It's possible it could be some other maple, but since silver is at the lowest of the maples for BTU's, you're set regardless.:thumbs:
     
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    Ive mistaken Norway logs for ash. Good firewood. Splits easy, dries fast. Better than Red or silver maple btu wise. An invasive species around here. Common along urban property lines where saplings go unchecked and grow into trees. Wood is on the brittle side. Wet snow and heavy winds seem to break it easily. Havent scored any in ages.
     
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    Either Sugar Maple or Norway, this fall should help clear that up. Norway Maple will turn yellow and Sugar Maple will turn orange to red. We have Lots of maple trees around here.
    ~Lissa
     
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    Sugar maple seed pods hang down like horse shoes. Norway maple seed pods look like wooden clothes hangers.
     
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    This is an excellent, pretty much foolproof tip. Here’s one I use this time of year - snap off a leaf. A Norway maple will often have white sap while a sugar will have clear.
     
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    Looks like Norway to me
     
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    When you pull a leaf off what color sap bleeds out of the end of the petiole ?
    If it is white sap it is most likely Norway. Decent firewood about the same as red maple btu-wise, maybe a tad higher.

    Sure looks like a norway maple leaf to me and they can be large.
     
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    Silver maple have big, light tan seed pods that drop earlier in the year. They stick upright in the grass and clog gutters.
     
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    Norway can have multiple leaders starting from down near the base that can get massive.

    Sugar maple grows pretty straight up and has much smaller diameter branches off the main trunk.
     
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    Here we go, this is main crotch 20200831_132949.jpg Seeds do look like clothes hangars 20200831_133113.jpg
    The whole tree here 20200831_133029.jpg
    And bark up close. 20200831_133001.jpg
    Its looking more and more like a Norway Maple now!! And this won't be turned into firewood any time soon. Unless it dies. I like the way its shades my house in the mornings. Thanks everyone
     
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    A lot of them were planted here in the sixties for environmental reasons, ie. shade along the street, cooling effect on lawns, 02 production, blah, blah, blah. Our town provided them "free" if they were planted along the street. They grow relatively fast even in poorer soil which is considered a plus for landscaping stripped house lots.
    Good intentions aside, unfortunately they are invasive and once the trees reach a mature size they can be extremely difficult to grow anything even lawn under them, in part due to the dense canopy and the root system under them is just as aggressive. They are pretty good at hogging all the resources.
    Aside from all the young ones coming up <everywhere> and the far too common dust bowls under them, they're really not such a bad yard tree. I wouldn't cut one down if it was serving a purpose and the advantages outweighed the disadvantages .

    I have a few in the woods here near the house and some day they'll be firewood, maybe when I'm too aged and feeble to get out in the woods and cut red maple and pine. Maybe I'll replace them with the little Norwegian spruces that are coming up all over the place from the hedgerow of Norwegian spruces that were planted in the sixties ....
     
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    If you take that seed pod and break it in half and then split the actual seed cavity open, pull the seed out, spread open the opened end and fit to each side of the end of your nose the sap will aid in it sticking in place. Just in case you were looking for a way to wear a maple seed pod wing on the end of your nose.
    Well, it works on a little kid's nose, dunno about a big honking schnoz.
     
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    Norway?....invasive
     
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    Yes a very dense canopy is exactly why I need to thin the tree out some. I'm gonna look around it and where ever I can i will cut a branch off. I dont want to bring it down........just need to thin it out a bit.

    Oh and it s funny that these are "Norwegian ", 2 of the Spruces i planted in my back yard are norway spruce.