There used to be a member here that made bows from hedge, and they were nice looking pieces. Having a senior moment as I can't remember his handle.
It was planted in my area to be used for wood in the canals. ~1835 to 1860 or so. It's spread out from those plantings, as well as some shelterbelt plantings in the 1930s. Mostly just a small tree that you could get a few fence posts out of around my area, although there are a few roads that are still lined with larger ones.
Yes Brad, Only 16" pieces. Maybe a couple dozen. It was a mixed load, oak, maple cherry, walnut and the Osage. I'm going to call the guy and ask if he has any more of that "Butternut" !!
Very surprised to hear of Hedge growing that far north. We see a lot of it in Missouri and southern Iowa but very little as north as me here in the central part of Iowa.
Why not, heck i would. I have never seen it in person in wood or tree form that im aware of. Dont even know if it grows/can grow here.
Well, for any of you in south east Michigan, a friend just told me about a old stand of hedge along the north side of 32 mile rd juse outside the town of Romeo. Said the softball size nuts (if they are called that) often fall near the road. I'll check it out and get pics some day.
I have 3 clusters of hedge apple trees in my front yard. 2 are female and produce fruit and the one in the back that's hard to see is male and it just stands there looking tired! The tree on the far right is honey locust and on the far left is a boxelder.
Umnn Brad, I’m seeing the first episode of Woodpickers. 32 mile rd or Ralphie Boys front yard. Either one sounds great
Nice place to visit i just wouldnt wanna cut the grass!. All kidding aside, nice place youve got there RB. Nice view too. If i close my eyes and envision the country side, thats what comes to mind!
Osage Orange, AKA Hedge, is the "In" wood for axe handles for some people. Tough? Absolutely! Here is a repost from another site that may explain why - Osage Orange is at the top of the list. So, after almost two years of looking and reading I finally found the full USDA wood species testing information from 1935. There are a lot of ways to test wood, Janka, MoR, Elastic Modulus, Crush Strength, etc.. But there is one test that applies more to Axe handles than any other test there is.. It's called Impact Bending. In the case of this particular study a 50 pound hammer was dropped on many test samples of a piece of wood and the average height in inches it took to break that wood sample is recorded. This test is probably the rarest test of any type of testing done on lumber, hence why it took me so long to dig up. You can find a PDF version of this information if you look up (USDA Technical Bulletin No. 479 September 1935) Strength and Related Properties of Woods Grown In The United States Anyway, to the point... I pulled out all the impact bending information and put it in the list below.. (Just as a side note, these tests were done, both parallel to the grain and perpendicular to the grain. There was very marginal difference between the two positions. Maybe 3% at most.) Sorted By Height In Inches Of Impact 120 (Wet) ------------- Osage Orange 106 (Wet) ------------- Beech, Blue (Hornbeam/Musclewood) 88 ----------------------- Hickory, Bigleaf Shagbark 77 ----------------------- Hickory, Mockernut 74 ----------------------- Hickory, Pignut 71 (AVG) 53 - 88 --- Hickory (Full Range) 67 ----------------------- Hickory, Shagbark 66 ----------------------- Hickory, Bitternut 59 ----------------------- Serviceberry 57 ----------------------- Locust, Black 56 ----------------------- Elm, Rock 55 ----------------------- Birch, Yellow 54 (Wet) --------------- Hickory, Nutmeg 53 ----------------------- Hickory, Water 53 ----------------------- Oak, Scarlet 49 ----------------------- Hophornbeam 49 ----------------------- Oak, Swamp Red 49 ----------------------- Oak, Swamp White 47 ----------------------- Birch, Sweet 47 ----------------------- Honeylocust 46 ----------------------- Oak, Post 45 ----------------------- Elm, Slippery 45 ----------------------- Oak, Pin 44 ----------------------- Dogwood 44 ----------------------- Oak, Water 44 ----------------------- Pecan 43 ----------------------- Apple 43 ----------------------- Ash, White 43 ----------------------- Hackberry 43 ----------------------- Oak, Red 42 ----------------------- Ash, Blue 42 (AVG) 34 - 55 --- Birch (Full Range) 42 (Wet) -------------- Black Mangrove 42 ----------------------- Oak, Willow 41 ----------------------- Beech 41 ----------------------- Gum, Blue 41 ----------------------- Oak, Black 41 ----------------------- Oak, Swamp Chestnut 40 ----------------------- Ash, Biltmore White 40 ----------------------- Birch, Alaska White 40 (Wet) --------------- Buttonwood 40 ----------------------- Laurel, Mountain 40 ----------------------- Maple, Black 40 ----------------------- Oak, Chestnut 40 (Wet) --------------- Pigeon-plum 40 (Wet) --------------- Witchhazel 39 ----------------------- Elm, American 39 ----------------------- Maple, Sugar 39 ----------------------- Oak, Laurel 38 (AVG) 16 - 53 --- Oak (Full Range) 38 ----------------------- Sourwood 37 ----------------------- Oak, Canyon Live 37 ----------------------- Oak, White 37 ----------------------- Persimmon 36 (AVG) 24 - 43 --- Ash (Full Range) 36 ----------------------- Sugarberry 36 ----------------------- Pine, Slash 35 ----------------------- Ash, Black 35 ----------------------- Birch, Gray 35 ----------------------- Magnolia, Cucumber 35 ----------------------- Pine, Jack 34 ----------------------- Birch, Paper 34 ----------------------- Dogwood, Pacific 34 ----------------------- Stopper, Red 34 ----------------------- Walnut, Black 34 ----------------------- Pine, Longleaf 33 ----------------------- Ash, Oregon 33 ----------------------- Elder, Blueberry 33 ----------------------- Holly 33 ----------------------- Oak, Live 33 ----------------------- Sassafras 33 ----------------------- Pine, Shortleaf 32 ----------------------- Ash, Green 32 ----------------------- Gum, Red 32 ----------------------- Mangrove 32 ----------------------- Maple, Red 32 (AVG) 25 - 40 ---- Maple (Full Range) 32 ----------------------- Hemlock, Mountain 32 ----------------------- Larch, Western 31 ----------------------- Cherry, Pin 31 ----------------------- Laurel, California 31 ----------------------- Willow, Western Black 31 ----------------------- Pine, Pitch 31 ----------------------- Yew, Pacific 30 ----------------------- Chinquapin, Golden 30 ----------------------- Douglas Fir (Coastal) 30 ----------------------- Pine, Loblolly 29 ----------------------- Cherry, Black 29 ----------------------- Magnolia, Evergreen 29 ----------------------- Oak, Bur 29 ----------------------- Oak, Oregon White 29 ----------------------- Cedar, Alaska 29 ----------------------- Pine, Mountain 28 ----------------------- Inkwood 28 ----------------------- Maple, Bigleaf 28 ----------------------- Cedar, Port Orford 28 ----------------------- Fir, Lowland White 28 ----------------------- Pine, Pond 27 ----------------------- Catalpa, Hardy 27 ----------------------- Magnolia, Mountain 27 ----------------------- Maple, Striped 27 ----------------------- Douglas Fir (Intermediate) 27 ----------------------- Pine, Jeffery 26 ----------------------- Bustic 26 ----------------------- Cascara 26 ----------------------- Oak, Southern Red 26 ----------------------- Sycamore 26 ----------------------- Douglas Fir (Mountain) 26 ----------------------- Hemlock, Western 26 (AVG) 17 - 36 --- Pine (Full Range) 25 (AVG) 9 - 41 ----- Gum (Full Range) 25 ----------------------- Maple, Silver 25 ----------------------- Pine, Norway 25 ----------------------- Spruce, Red 25 ----------------------- Spruce, Sitka 24 ----------------------- Ash, Pumpkin 24 ----------------------- Butternut 24 ----------------------- Mastic 24 ----------------------- Silverbell 24 ----------------------- Cypress, Southern 24 ----------------------- Fir, Silver 23 ----------------------- Gum, Tupelo 23 ----------------------- Madrono, Pacific 23 ----------------------- Oak, Rocky Mountain White 23 ----------------------- Fir, Noble 23 ----------------------- Fir, California Red 23 ----------------------- Pine, Western White 23 ----------------------- Spruce, Black 23 ----------------------- Tamarack 22 ----------------------- Aspen, Largetooth 22 ----------------------- Cottonwood, Northern Black 22 ----------------------- Gum, Black 22 ----------------------- Cedar, Eastern Red 22 (AVG) 15 - 25 ---- Spruce (Full Range) 21 ----------------------- Aspen 21 (AVG) 13 - 28 --- Fir (Full Range) 21 ----------------------- Walnut, Little 21 ----------------------- Hemlock, Eastern 20 ----------------------- Alder, Red 20 ----------------------- Cottonwood, Eastern 20 ----------------------- Poplar, Yellow 20 ----------------------- Willow, Black 20 ----------------------- Fir, Balsam 20 ----------------------- Pine, Lodgepole 20 ----------------------- Spruce, White 19 (AVG) 12 - 29 --- Cedar (Full Range) 19 ----------------------- Chestnut 19 ----------------------- Rhododendron, Great 19 ----------------------- Pine, Limber 19 ----------------------- Pine, Northern White 19 ----------------------- Pine, Sand 19 ----------------------- Redwood (Virgin) 18 ----------------------- Pine, Sugar 17 ----------------------- Cedar, Incense 17 ----------------------- Cedar, Southern Red 17 ----------------------- Cedar, Western Red 17 ----------------------- Fir, White 17 ----------------------- Pine, Ponderossa 16 ----------------------- Basswood 16 ----------------------- Buckeye, Yellow 16 ----------------------- Oak, California Black 16 ----------------------- Palmetto, Cabbage 16 ----------------------- Fir, Alpine 16 ----------------------- Redwood (Second Growth Dense) 15 (Wet) -------------- Poisonwood 15 ----------------------- Spruce, Engelmann 14 ----------------------- Ironwood, Black 14 ----------------------- Poplar, Balsam 13 ----------------------- Cedar, Southern White 13 ----------------------- Fir, Corkbark 12 ----------------------- Cedar, Northern White 12 ----------------------- Juniper, Alligator 12 ----------------------- Pinon 11 ----------------------- Redwood (Second Growth Open) 9 ----------------------- Gum, Limbo 7 ----------------------- Paradise Tree
I saw some pictures of Rabbit Hash that you had posted a yer or so ago. Really pretty. I will put it on my bucket list under "Road Trip Paradise".
