Hearthstone is getting real

Is the Rangely the one with the grill insert? I can’t remember.

 

I don't agree that weight of the stove has any effect on over all heat output. A stove with the same surface area and surface temp will put out the same BTUs at that time. The difference in weight mainly effects time to get up to temp and heat retention time. In some cases a lighter stove that will heat up faster will be more desirable. In others the more thermal mass will work better.

Then you have jacketed stoves which convert some of that radiant heat to convective heat. That is a whole different discussion and is much more complicated.

 

Yes, but a marketing gimmick. Jotul was giving the grills away at first, then stopped with ours.
We want heat from our wood stoves, not food. One of our neighbors used to cook on their wood range all year with a wood heating stove for
extra heating in another room. Her spouse complained that she was fussy about how he had to cut and split the wood for the Atlantic cook stove.
12" logs and a variety of splits for bread, for beans, for meats. An art. Their place was a little over a mile from us. Visiting in the early summer mornings she would
always have beans and biscuits cooking. Nice for us an attracted bears.
P.S. Yogi has discovered the feeders. The unwelcome mats are now out for bears. Feeders are in. Their scat piles are close to 5X a dog's....

 

Anyone reading the information I wrote it would be to your advantage to read my post/example several times as there is a lot to digest and it would be easy to miss something I’ve written. There are lots of variables to consider.

I try to be thorough in most of my posts as one liners leave a lot to be assumed, but I am far from perfect.

In Rich’s post the context was burn time to weight and/or physical stove size, or stated in reverse however you wish...and his comments that he seen a discrepancy. He is not alone. Many stoves of similar physical size, weight, and firebox size have different burn times. Rich is seemingly considering why? A person would think it boils down to inside design of the stove, but the fact remains many stoves have 2ndary systems, catalytic converted, and these days they have both. It just goes to show interior systems are vastly different.

Those interested can re-read the sentence I wrote just under Rich’s three example stoves. His examples (just the stoves themselves) alone says that mass is not an indicator of burn time (mentioned twice now) or heat life (not mentioned). The stoves are all different and clearly the results are different with the examples Rich used.

 

So, it does work decently for you, or not? Or is it something you don't use at all and have never used?

 

Hopefully the new Manchester will do twice the burn time as the Old Manchester.It's still queer to me that for a Cat.stove Woodstock only gets 14 hr burn times when other Cats.such as Blaze King and Hearthstone boast burn times at least twice as long as Woodstock.What does that say about the Woodstock designs ?

 

Here’s another massive stove in every sense with a long 40 hr burn time. Not sure if they still make/sell/offer this stove. I couldn’t find it on their website and it took some digging to find it online. I knew it existed because I have a brochure for it in a folder. I’m not sure I like the idea of not having instantaneous control should I ever need it quickly. Otherwise, the computer should run it fine...if you can trust it.

Note: This stove has no catalyst and is not a hybrid, but has 2ndary air tubes. This stove is really the only one of it’s kind that I am aware of.

Have not seen any reviews and, like I said, do not know if it’s still being sold. You’ll have to look.

https://ltrushstone.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Product-Brochure.pdf


https://ltrushstone.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Owners-Manual5.pdf

 

You are absolutely right. Burn times are effected by tons of different things. The weight of the stove being a very minor factor

 

Burn time is only one factor of stove performance. I am running a bk now and yes it can burn for 24 hours or so. But not if I actually want to heat my house.

 

Most users I know of like them allot as long as the electronics are working. Which was a problem. And no they are no longer being sold.

 

Wood stove heat is like that old ad "ask the man who owns one." Everyone becomes the expert on their stove...or they pretend they know.
So many variables that efficiency and BTUs and lengths of burns are near meaningless.
Species, firebox capacity, home insulation, amount of central heat ( almost all ) "set at", climate, azimuth exposure to sun, wind and wind direction,
stove location ( why some heat foundation dirt with cellar stoves ? ), ages and metabolisms, split moisture,................more.
Some like it hot. Some like going around the house nude in winter. Etc.... More....

 

Could be as simple as Woodstock wanting to underpromise and over deliver. As a manufacturer you don't want to disappoint.

 

Anyone using their stove for near 100% heating have experience with a 2020 new and improved stove ?
Same for the "new" vehicle model year ( or the engineered M-16 way back ).

 

That would be very wise on their part and a good point on your part.Woodstock users could put a period to that idea.

 

In my experience the weight of a soapstone stove does allow for more heat release time.The five that I had do release substantial heat after the fire is down.The weight of the stoves determine how long the stones release their heat.The Hearthstone One being the largest had the longest heat release time.A metal stove will cool off faster than a soapstone so it's weight won't matter as much.

 

Yes but none of that has anything to do with burn time. And you are glossing over the time in the beginning of the fire where that stone is absorbing BTUs to be released later.

 

My father has been using a 2020 Pacific energy for half this season. It is working well. We also have quite a few regency pro line stoves out in the field that are doing well.

 

For my situation I notice my good heat output includes burning time and heat radiated from the soapstone which is 14 hrs.That suits me fine,Enough time to sleep and go and come from work before adding more wood.The stove never goes cold during the coldest spells.The first start up takes about 45 minutes before it throws off good heat.Ten to Fourteen hours after that I'm reloading which workers great for me and the stove doesn't have to reheat.Just throw the wood in and we're good.

 

Ok it's great that it works well for you. I am not at all saying there is anything wrong with your approach at all. But there are many stoves on the market that burn that long or longer that don't weigh anywhere near as much.

 

I got a Woodstock IS.. 14 hours heats my home of 2300 sq feet. With 17+ foot ceilings in half of it on the 45th parallel.. I burn 4.5 cord a year real life weigh that vs a brochure!