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Property line question- what is a hoarder to do?

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  1. In the Pines

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    When I read back how that posted, I was thinking the same thing. :yes:
    They probably wouldn't care if that was the case.
     
  2. TurboDiesel

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    Ive seen a really bad land/ROW/driveway dispute between my friends and their neighbors (nicknamed...The Land baron)
    Was nothing but mean and hateful. Caused lots of hard feelings...
    Avoid that at all costs!

    When I bought my place (25yrs ago), our shed was 1/2 on the neighbor's driveway/ROW. I was told up front thats the way it is and has been for a very long time. No one minded it. Their driveway sort of curved around the shed. Was there till last year when it finally fell apart and i removed it.

    The bottom line is, we all get along here.
    i cut wood on one neighbor's property, the neighbors behind me i plowed their driveway for years. We all talk just about every day and we let each others dogs out all the time. Guy right behind us has been coming for supper on fridays since the virus/quarantine started. The other neighbor stops by and puts fruit on the kitchen counter when she finds good deals at the outlet store.
    Show a little love and respect to your neighbors and you'll be blessed with good neighbors...usually.

    Drop off some cookies or a bottle of wine or have them over for a beer and campfire...whatever it takes to make friends...
     
  3. SpeedShop64

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    Ctwoodtick if you have a smart phone look into an app called "onXhunt". Its a GPS mapping aid used for hunting to tell you where property lines are, owner, etc.. I've used it on both of my properties and its pretty much dead on to my survey. I believe they have a free trial period or its $20-$30 a year I cant remember. But I have found it to be a handy tool to have even when your not hunting. In my opinion I would see where the property line lands and if your wood is on it I would move it.
     
  4. Dumf

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    "Survey says........ "

    From the TV show for the boob tubers.

    Surveyors like loggers and arborists have to be bonded for most landowners. They do a survey, especially Registered, then no doubt that the lines are correct. No lawyers needed. No ASSumptions of where the line is or 'should be", pins and marks are right, no apps,
    trees blazed correctly, no arguments. Done.
    Do it. :salute:
     
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  5. TurboDiesel

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    A survey will also show if someone moved the stakes.:handshake:
     
  6. brenndatomu

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    Which will be done when the property sells...might as well let them pay for it...
     
  7. TurboDiesel

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    is a survey required?
    I haven't bought any ground lately but we sold my moms place. One (separate) parcel was sold to the neighbor but no survey was done on either parcel.
     
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    So there was no mortgage or title insurance on it? I'm pretty sure a survey would be required then...
     
  9. TurboDiesel

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    Mortgage definitely on piece sold to the neighbor but it was just ground, no building.
     
  10. Warner

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    No survey required in new hamster.
     
  11. Ctwoodtick

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    “New hamster”- Lol!
     
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  12. metalcuttr

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    I think setbacks only apply to structures.
     
  13. dgeesaman

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    In PA it’s not required unless there is a specific concern.

    personally, if I ever have a survey done, I’m pounding in extra stakes down flush on opposite sides of the official stake. That way I’ll know if a stake moved.
     
  14. boettg33

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    I have not read everyones comments, but I will give you my own experience. Back about 15+ years ago, I was recovering a section of our 1 acre land my dad planted PGMs to sell. Later on the other side he potted PGMs. On the side he planted them, he brought down poison sumac from my uncles property. When he stopped selling wholesale to local nurseries, he let that part of the property go, and the sumac went wild. They were everywhere and were as tall as 10'. I rented a small Kubato to clear it out, and then a Caterpillar 226 Skid Steer. The Skid Steer did the job the best. Anyhow, when I had the Kubato at the last stage before I planted grass, this guy walks over through the tree-line to ask me where the property line is.

    Behind our house nestled between three other properties were three acres with a steep hill down to the road. Back in the 80's, my dad, and the other two homeowners put in together to purchase this land to prevent anyone from building there. One of the other homeowners brothers owned the land, and he wanted 30K for it. Naturally he backed out of the deal, and it sat idle until 15+ years ago. When it went up for sale again, I inquired about the land, and it was selling at that time for $99k/acre. Way out of my price range. Not long after it went up for-sale, a speculator bought it and stuck three houses on it. The driveways are so steep, no one is willing to plow them.

    The guy was a retired Providence police officer and turned out to be my worst nightmare. Not only did he question the line, but he also wanted me to give him a right away through our property for a driveway. That driveway would have made our property unsellable. When I offered to make a trade for land or flat out sell from the boundary of the drive down the hill, he got downright unruly. Around 2 years of living there, they moved. The new owner, did not start out much better. That is a whole other story.

    Anyhow, me personally, I'd have it surveyed or simply move it. Yes that would cost money or be a ton of work to move the wood. I do live in the smallest state in the Union, but I am not a fan of talking to most of my neighbors unless I have to.
     
  15. moresnow

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    Survey, Survey, Survey... No excuses. Get it done and maintain your markers/lines etc. Problem solved.

    Guess what I did for a living:whistle::rofl: :lol:
     
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    Survey. Survey.
    When we were looking for land and woodlot, the rule for the brokers was : " I need to be able to pee in the 4 cardinal directions without bothering or seeing any neighbor."
    Only one broker ( native Mainer) took the job. Plenty of land or the "good fences" rule
    Story #2: a local who didn't like people "from away" buying land that he rode and hunted on, kept pulling up survey pins. The surveyor who did the land was pizzed since he had to re set the pins for title and closing.
    It's only a misdemeanor in Maine to tamper with survey pins and markers. A physical confrontation finally solved it. No other problems for over 20 years. The gibone died 5 years ago.
     
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    When my neighbor bought the property next to me he had it surveyed and I gained a 10' strip of property. I walk my property line often the stakes at the corners have been there for many years the corner with no stake has a pile of stacked stones this is where I gained. I spoke to the neighbor and he lets me clean up the dead and down tees on his property as I have access to it from my property. My advice is be neighborly and things will work out.
     
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