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Buying a Used 4 Wheeler

Discussion in 'Chainsaws and Power Equipment' started by Blstr88, Feb 6, 2020.

  1. Horkn

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    That number still seems very low. Do you know him to be truthful? Or is that dealer about to go OOB? Used ones go for more than that.
     
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    Very.


    Quite honestly, i didn't think Polaris had a full size machine they could sell that cheap.
    There are 2 huge multibrand dealers here in our area. That may have helped. IDK...
     
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    Yes I saw your thread. A dealer near me has a brand new 2019 Kodiak 450 for $5699 and thats correct, no sales tax. I assume maybe another $99 document fees or whatever, so probably $5800 OTD. Another dealer has a base 2019 Outlander 450 for $5700 + $93 document fee for a $5793 OTD price. Those 2 are on the top of my list. I used to ride a lot of Yamaha sport-ATVs back in the early 2000's in my younger days and they've proven themselves to me and are known to be well made reliable machines. Can-Am I'm new to, however a co-worker of mine has a Defender HD10 thats seen a lot of hard use on his horse farm and is holding up great, and my neighbor has an Outlander 570 he also really likes. Can-Ams from what Ive read are very well made machines as well.

    By the numbers alone, the Can-Am just seems to be the better quad. 38 horsepower vs Kodiaks 27 hp. Slightly larger dimensions, slightly heavier (maybe thats not a positive though), its rated for quite a bit more of Rack Capacity. Heres where I got that info:

    2018 Yamaha Kodiak 450 EPS vs. Can-Am Outlander 450 DPS: By the Numbers - ATV.com

    None of those numbers really stand out to me except horsepower - 27 HP seems pretty low no? 38 is almost 50% more than 27. Is that going to be noticeable?

    And yes, I've come to the same conclusion as pretty much all of you regarding that used one - I dont want to buy it unless he has the title in hand. The reason I'm really interested in it is because its a 2018 Outlander (with power steering) with ~500 miles and he said he'll take $3850. That seems like a steal to me...but unless he can get the title ahead of time I'll probably hold off. The extra $2000 for a new one will be money well spent if I end up running into issues with the used one.
     
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    Ok
    pressing my buddy for more info. he bought this quad for his dad so he could go hunting, but he's never owned an atv himself...
    after adding front and rear racks the OTD price was almost 5000.
    The mystery continues...
    The lowest price i see for that model 2019 leftover is about 4700 online, so im thinking he was in the 4450 range before accessories and TTT
    I still believe this to be a decent price, if accurate.

    The dealer told him they had 150 in stock originally. and 15 left in stock when he bought his.


    again, sorry for the confusion :emb:
     
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    I believe Can Am engines are probably better smoother. I'm actually not impressed with my 550xp engine as far as smoothness.
    In general, i don't think you can go wrong with any of the major brands.
     
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    What dealer did he buy it from? If I could find one brand new for $4700 I don't mind taking a ride, even to PA. Thats a great price!
     
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    Shoot me a PM with your asking price - for the right deal I don't mind taking a long ride.
     
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    2000 Honda Foreman. It's the hours not miles on a machine. Like said: how maintained, abused, used.
    No, none problems in 20 years used in the woodlot harvesting, clearing, work only. Just newer tires.
    Woops, inconvenient truth--rolled the Foreman 3x when stupid. Damage? Pride.
     
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    I spent my youth riding on Honda ATVs and I think they are great quality. If I was in the market for a replacement I would only look at EFI and power steering. Any big name manufacturer will have positives about buying that specific brand.
     
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    One of my buddies just sold a 4 door sxs and the buyer came from Massachusetts to pick it up.
    Another sold a quad and the buyer came from Connecticut.
     
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    Interesting. You should tell him that he probably got the best deal that he'll probably ever get on a new machine. That's~$2k off the prices I'm seeing.
     
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    For that price I'm thinking about selling mine and upgrading 10 years...
     
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    Don't sweat the lower hp of the 450 Kodiak. It's VERY torquey. The 450 Kodiak it's extremely well made, and the attention to detail on it puts it well ahead of the canam. There's a canam dealer in the town where my mom is, and there's a Yamaha dealer too. Now, if you look at the owners of canams, you'll see they need to visit the shop a lot more than a Yamaha. The Kodiak engine is the stone reliable 421cc sohc that Yami has had for years, just EFI and mounted on rubber engine mounts. It's super smooth too.

    I compared the Kodiak 450 to the canam 450, and I preferred the yamaha.

    If you're still worried about lower hp, my old 300 cc bayou has like 15 hp,c and it can do anything you need it to. Especially wood wise. I use the old bayou to haul a 4x8 trailer full of wood, a lot, and it has no issues doing that grunt work.
     
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    On a 450, you don't really need power steering at all. On a 600 or bigger, yes, EPS is a great addition.

    My mom just got a 450 Kodiak and she's 75. She even saw no need for the EPS on this size of machine. EFI is very nice, something that I know she'll appreciate.
     
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    Now, pretty sure you'd have to pay tax. Since it's an off road vehicle, they have to charge you tax where it's sold, not registered.
     
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    I agree, this large displacement stuff is overkill...for work and "normal" play, IME, anything over 350cc is "extra"...now for racing, or serious hill climbs, more is better...but rider skill can still overcome someone else with more power...even a lot more power sometimes.
     
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    I’ve survived years without power steering but put a snow blade on the front or load the racks with wood chunks and I start dreaming of PS. It’s not like I’m in the market though, I’m just jumping on the OP thread.
     
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    I find the same with all vehicles and appliances. And the older ones are repairable, repairable for a much smaller cost opposed to new disposable.
     
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    By no means give payment to the atv owner and expect them to pay off the loan and send the title to you. There are so many warning flags here!

    Just ask what financial institution holds the loan and meet them there to pay the loan off and get the title signed over to you at that very moment. Period! :handshake:

    Don't want to see you on Judge Judy in upcoming episodes......