Has your weather changed in your lifetime?

Felter thanks for posting that video seemed logical I tried 3x but didn’t get the guests name.. do you have it?? Liked his assessment of situation as technology will solve in future try to minimize until then.. SO burn firewood it’s renewable

 

Sorry, I just assumed you would be able to make the connection between the melting of the ice in the cup not raising the water level one iota vs. the ice of the polar ice caps melting and not raising ocean levels.

So I will explain it to you with factual information.

When water freezes, it expands (the molecules push away from each other) and rises above the water level it sits in without raising or lowering its level. This is why when you put a glass bottle full of water in the freezer it breaks. Water cannot be “squeezed”, so the glass breaks or, if the ice is sitting in water, it rises above the water level in which it sits. When the ice melts, the molecules fall back close together and returns back to the state it was before freezing—all without raising or lowering the water level in which it sits.Try it yourself on your kitchen counter and you will see it with your own two eyes.
There is a very well known “documentary” by a certain politician that shows a computer generated image showing the ocean levels rising and engulfing and submerging significant portions of world land masses (continents) as the polar ice caps melt.

This would not happen because of the very reason explained by the ice in the cup experiment from the 70s.

I hope that helps.

 

The climate has always and will always be in state of constant flux. That is the nature of the beast. Look at the rings of any of the really older trees we cut down. Often there is a very notable variation between seasons and years. Yes, I know that is because of the trees water intake, but it’s water intake is based upon rainfall which is based on weather/climate.

 

Problem is most ice caps, for example Greenland & Antarctica, are not floating, they sit above land. As they melt their runoff adds to the oceans. Hence the sea level rises.

Basic research shows the volume of ice sitting on land compared to that over water.

KaptJaq

 

thank you for explaining. while your explanation is perfectly understandable for floating ice in the ocean. the flaw is that 95 percent of the ice on earth is land based. here is a video that explains it.
you can skip to 2:05

 

bjom lomborg
Bjørn Lomborg - Wikipedia

 

so you do believe in global warming.
Global warming refers only to the Earth’s rising surface temperature, while climate change includes warming and the “side effects” of warming—like melting glaciers, heavier rainstorms, or more frequent drought. Said another way, global warming is one symptom of the much larger problem of human-caused climate change.
sauce. What's the difference between global warming and climate change? | NOAA Climate.gov

 

Thanks !!

 

I would challenge the 95% number because virtually ALL the arctic sea ice is floating. The arctic circle has zero land mass beneath it. A large amount of melted ice on Antarctica and Greenland might run off...or it might not. My hypothesis is a large portion of that water would absorbs into it’s own groundwater reservoirs just as happens on any land mass. And yes, some would make it into the oceans.

But again, if the atmosphere becomes warm enough to melt that ice it ALSO becomes warm enough to increase the rate of evaporation of water in the oceans—which is LOWERING ocean levels as that water flows in to keep sea levels at near equilibrium.

 

Do you want to discuss this intelligently or are you just wanting to mock? Yes or no?

 

excellent! finally something to discuss. what percent of ice do you think is over land? how did you do your research to find out how much ice is over land? how did you form your hypothesis on water absorbing into its own groundwater? is that typically what happens to rainwater in Arizona? is that how you observed it?

 

I can't disagree with a guy who's right!! I'd be willing to argue that not just "virtually all" but literally ALL the sea ice is floating. 100% of that sea ice is floating. I'm not a betting man but I'd put money on it.

the arctic circle is defined as the area of the globe that has 24 hrs of daylight or night time at some point in the year. below is a map of the arctic circle, please look and tell me if you think any of this map inside the arctic circle is land. the blue dotted line indicates the arctic circle

do you think this map is wrong? is the "land" on this map just ice floating in the ocean?

this guy explains the arctic circle pretty well.

or perhaps you meant the antarctic circle? (south pole)

 

I call BS. As in using definitions that suit your purpose.. your map is the Antarctic circle, and commonly referred to as such in New Zealand and Australia. The English speaking countries I’ve been to in the southern hemisphere

 

Yes or no?

 

yes, absolutely.

 

are you joking? I posted a map of both the arctic circle and antarctic circle. it seems there is some misunderstanding about what the arctic circle is. also they are not my maps. I just did a quick search and that is what popped up.

 

here is another map of both the arctic and antarctic circles.

 

Sorry your artic circle map did not show up when I first read and posted but jeez guys if we cannot agree on definitions of artic circle the chance of learning anything here is becoming remote

 

here is the dictionary definition of "arctic circle"
the imaginary circle round the earth, parallel to the equator, at latitude 66° 32′ N; it marks the northernmost point at which the sun appears above the level of the horizon on the winter solstice

source: dictionary.com

 

my apologies. and ya I think its clear what we are dealing with here.