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Farm work isn’t considered “work experience “

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  1. Chaz

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    Couldn't agree more jrider

    Can't believe how much some of the CNC operators pizz & moan at work.

    Program machine, put in stock or part, hit go and wait.

    Yet you'd think they're out digging ditches by hand, in February.

    :picard:

    They also feel they're underpaid, and you should hear the complaints when their bonus checks aren't as large as they think it should be.
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  2. Locust Post

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    I worked on a farm for 2 years during high school for 1.50/hr. Summer between junior and senior year I made hay at another farm for 1.75/hr. I was moving up......best work experience/work ethic I ever had. Later in life when I ran a body shop it was quite interesting, some of the kids I had for clean up work.
     
  3. Sourwood

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    A few years ago, I had a couple neighbors who were math professors at Indiana. They cut alfalfa off my place, and had a farm nearby.
    Told me accounting firms were begging for applicants who grew up on farms. They had the mindset that the job isn’t dictated by the time of day, but when the job was done.
     
  4. Backwoods Savage

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    Guess I'm in the minority once again. I was born and raised on a dairy farm. Work, no matter if hard or even dirty, was just something that had to be done. I know the worst for me was weekends. My friends all played all weekend. I worked most of the time. It always seemed too that the hardest work came on Saturdays. Naturally Saturday nights were short as we were tired and besides, had to get up at 5:00 to milk the cows. Still, it was good and I so wanted our sons to grow up on a farm but sadly, the dollars were not there to get started so that is when I started working in the woods.

    But I guess the biggest point I wish to make is that during my working years I always put down about the farm work and it was always looked at as a big plus for employment. Reason? You know what work is and will do it. You also have some brains and know how to use them (sadly I've lost that part).
     
  5. Canadian border VT

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    Here they hire anyone that can pass a test! Farm workers command a premium. Meaning, work ethic, punctuality (cows get mastitis), ability to get job completed even when stuff happens. Those skill sets are worth minimum of $22 an hour here!
     
  6. brenndatomu

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    FIFY...
    And yes, true at many places.
    We have a railroad contractor locally that is seemingly always looking for help...$17 to start for anyone willing to actually show up on time, work, and pass a drug test..they have to travel too, but that is all paid for, including per diem...and if you prove to be trainable and halfway intelligent, I understand you can get some rather substantial raises, and rather quickly...but yet they are always looking for help. Can't be too bad of a place to work, there are a number of guys that have been there a long time.
    I was standing there talking with one of the long time employees (a foreman) out in front of the business one day, when a trucker pulled up and inquired about the help wanted sign, said his "no account" son had just been fired from McDonalds and was looking for work again...the foreman told him to have his son fill out the online application, and that if he could pass a drug test, and show up in time for the convoy to leave on Monday morning, they would him a shot...I was like :jaw: :picard:
     
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  7. Canadian border VT

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    :yes:
    so right Brenndy:yes:
     
  8. wildwest

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    Hey, lets change some verbs, I'll bet it could help. What I know is they do wood for you, and you are teaching them firearms, what else are they doing on your farm?

    Brainstorming, please chime in hoarders.

    Firewood, they know your splitter, do they run saws? I though I saw atleast one of them with a saw. Whats involved? Planning, executing, safety, equipment maintenance.

    "creating strategies for most effective production" (no willy nilly saw whatever where ever, planning is involved, buck first, move splitter or logs, then split, then stacking, I know you have a system and taught them)
    "completing tasks in a timely manner"
    "meticulously maintaining equipment"
    "ensure proper safety precautions are followed" (PPE and how to safely use saw, splitter, ax, and rifle)
    mention inventory, keeping track of supply and demand, can't just go saw wood when the season pile is low, it's a long process.

    much more, but need to find short concise words for an application vs a resume and I am rusty at this now.
     
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    Wow wildwest comes in and knocks one out of the park!! :yes: Excellent point adjusting verbiage and titles of duties so more work looks transferable..
     
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    They had plastic milk crates in the woods back then ??????.................................:rofl: :lol::rofl: :lol::thumbs:
     
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    They also know that you won't stay there long due to such underpayment...
     
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    Yup, they would rather a mutant they can pay the least to get the job done.
     
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    Verbiage is a key skill to have a grasp of. Part of the issue that the work you do has to be relatable to other positions. Some people can't grasp how to relate skills from farm/ labor work to production.
     
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    Lets give her "canned" verbiage for the application, he says she's a hard working and learns quickly, atleast get her foot in the door :yes:

    Another one I like is "makes good decisions". Simple, but it says alot.
     
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    Yeah.................................and most of them are located in Washington D.C.............................:rofl: :lol::rofl: :lol:
     
  16. Warner

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    A big thing that I have witnessed with people lately is there is no ability to take direction or acceptance of failure. There is always some excuse that “it wasn’t my fault”.

    Stuff happens that’s how you learn. Accept it learn from it and move on. Let it happen repetitively it’s not someone else’s fault.
     
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    That's because they were brought up to always be a winner, there are no losers in their world.
     
  18. Chaz

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    Some call that responsibility.

    I'm fairly good at math, but would have to use exponents to calculate my mistakes.

    But, I've accepted responsibility for them all.
     
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    Yes, they operate some other machinery a little. Very safely conscious. Won’t operate anything without ear and eye protection.

    She saw one of the potential employers who interviewed her. “you look familiar “. “Yes, I was interviewed by you for a Job. You said you would get back with me either way on if I was hired. You didn’t “

    the guy just acted like she disappeared in front of her eyes.
     
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  20. BigPapi

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    In my previous career, I've probably hired 500 entry level or near entry level workers. Started as an entry level myself as a teen, and grew into a multi unit management position by the time I switched professions several years ago. There are very few qualifiers for getting a job as customer service or kitchen work in the hamburger business. Here's what I looked for, and succeeded with.

    1) Personality. If you can't smile and look me in the eye when you're trying to get a job, you won't do it with my customers. Not the right job for you.

    2) Work experience. Laborers have a work ethic, simply put. Farm, factory, landscaping, etc. If you can do that, you're the guy or gal who isn't scared to get dirty slopping the floors, cleaning the bathroom, scrubbing the grill, or scraping down the fryers. Retail is nothing like hamburger business, sorry. Doesn't help.

    3) Veterans. A surprising number of vets need work after their four years are up, or want something part time while they build a career at a 9-5 job. They wrote a blank check to the USA, the least I can do is help them make the rent for a while until they get a career lines up. And the work eithic? Unquestionable!

    4) Retirees. They tend to have very realistic line of sight on what they can and can't do, and how many hours a week they really want to work.

    5) Good Kids. I've interviewed literally thousands of teenagers in high school. If you have no responsibilities at home, don't do any after school activities, and your "hobbies and interests" are video games... Fast food is not for you. Folding clothes at The Gap is probably a better fit.