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ABS problems

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  1. campinspecter

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    I have a 1999 Toyota Tacoma in very good condition but have an ABS wiring problem and need advice!
    Just 130,000 miles on the clock so just broken in.

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    A local one man shop did a diagnostic on the ABS module plug using the wrong equipment and damaged the plug.
    The Toyota Dealership which is a 3hr drive away says the entire ABS wiring harness has to be changed, for a charge of around $4,000.
    I have found a module plug on ebay. Is there any reason this plug with its pig tail could not be soldered connected to the original harness?

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    Any advice would greatly be appreciated!
     
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    Is the plastic connector damaged or just some of the terminals?
    I would assume the connector is if the dealer wanted to replace the entire harness.
    I would not have any problem with replacing the connector, but I would release each terminal and slide it into the new/used connector and only replace damaged terminals, versus soldering all those wires. my.02
     
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    Why isn't the shop repairing what they damaged?

    I'd let him know either he can repair it or pay to have Toyota do it.

    Those plugs aren't easy to damage by just plugging something in. Didn't fit and he made it fit?


    But as far as DIY, I would certainly do like Smoke said. The terminal tools to pull those plugs apart are pretty cheap.
     
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    Thanks good ideas !

    Will be going back to a shop that I have dealt with for a long time( the same 3 hr drive away) , they feel confident that they can fix the problem, and not need to replace the harness.
    Till I really know what the problem is or was I will not go after the small shop, it could be Toyota is blowing smoke for a number of reasons!
     
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    I cant help the fix side of it, but I would be making that 1 man shop pay for his mistake and your time. You could give him a $4000 bill and he would have to eat it. He got lucky that you think it can be fixed much cheaper and are a nice enough person to pursue different avenues. Rental car charges could also be applied in this instance if needed.

    My mechanic (also a 1 man shop) said his scanner alone cost him $13,000 from snap on. If that guy doesn't have the tools, he should have bowed out gracefully before f-errrrr jacking it all up.
     
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    Smoke is right,if the plastic is what he damaged(and a few terminals) easier to change the plug and repair a few terminals.Two things---1 most common abs problems on those trucks are failed front speed sensors and wires ripped off rear speed sensors 2--if he did something stupid and back probed the harness with a test light you may now need an abs computer.Have worked on yotas since mid 70's.Bob
     
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    Thanks again for your input. Will know for sure next week when this second shop does a full diagnostic. Presently there is no communication with the ABS module.
     
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    Very tempting!
     
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    Ouch. Never mind on that one. I just realized it has Km: 275073! Too many. If your going to trade up you need one with under Km:100000!
     
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    Woa now! Easy on all the trade talk! With a first gen Tacoma you have nowhere to go with regards to upgrading!

    Bought mine brand new in 2002. 178,000 miles later it's perfectly broken in and has never missed a beat. For the record, I haven't had ABS in mine for a few years now . . . I like it better that way.
     
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    Gasifier has been teasing me about getting a Tundra for some time now, so this ongoing discussion between us can been seen on several threads.
    Seriously - what did you do to disconnect the ABS?
     
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    Actually, I didn't disconnect it. My module went bad, and the only part about that I don't like is that the "ABS" warning light stays on. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for safety, but I'm not a fan of anti-lock brakes - especially in winter.
     
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    At times the ABS works its intermittent.But on one occasion were I,m assuming the ABS was shutting down there were no brakes at all .
    Your input has given me the idea of shutting the ABS down for good.
     
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    I've got the same issue with an older Saturn, something or other associated with the ABS goes bad every few months and the light comes on. I've asked my mechanic if he can just turn the ABS off, he said not without having the idiot light come on and you can not get a state inspection with the ABS light on.
     
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    Take the bulb out :)
     
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    That's a bummer. No state inspection here in Indiana, so I'm all set as long as I can maintain my tolerance for the dash light...
     
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    Some GMs had a problem they called abs brake anomaly.You could actually speed up after the abs applies.They tried to fix it with programming.I own one of these(my winter truck) and dissconnected it many years ago as I go downhill from my house.Abs just sucks in the mountains.Some generation tacomas had the same problem,toyota sluffed it off,said people drive too fast.
     
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