Hello Having more electrical outlets is always good. Just plugging in a power strip works but is cumbersome. So when I saw the ac outlet with 2 USB outlets, that would be nice to have? Why take out a a good gfci outlet to put this one in? So I got a double gang box to add this one in. so why not remove the single gang new workbox and install a double gang old work box? I have done this before and just cut the nails with the Sawzall? Well this new workbox was a vapor box with the flange around it to keep out the draft! What draft is there in a new construction fully insulated 2x6 wall with reflectix foil? Anyway, I cut some of the flange off with the sawzall and pulled one of the nails out and pryed it off the stud then got it out of the wall bit still broke off too much of the wall to hold the new box ! Now what? My electrical buddy said battleship or Madison. I said not in the mood for playing games and don’t call me Madison! She said those are the fingers you need now to hold it in! Wow these are cool! Anyone else have these darn difficulties?
Good idea Will it cut the 2 nails and the side flanges off on the box while it is in the wall? A Dremel tool may work better too?
Takes a few more seconds cause you use higher speeds and less force but the result is less/no collateral damage so it’s faster in the end.
yes with a bimetal blade. I do not use a dremel style much except for routing out electrical boxes in new drywall
Why not just cut out a 16x16 section of drywall, do the electric work without all the mickey mouse hardware and then patch the drywall like a pro ?
Unfortunately a PRO would of done exactly what Don did and used those God awful straps. Not saying Don is wrong because what Don did is industry standard and in no way wrong.. I run into those straps all the time on remodel boxes,
Any drywall "pro" who left a big chunk of a hole above an outlet here would never work again except for maybe subcontracting work for Lowes.
I agree but I just did the electrical and now I can patch and paint the drywall. Remember Electricians don’t do drywall and drywall people do not do electrical work but those new vapor electrical boxes make it harder for everyone! So maybe a drywall patch here will make it look better?
Heck, for that small a hole, if you didn't want to patch, you could probably use mudding compound to build it to the cover. Not that I'm saying that is the "right" way to do it, just an option.
I know this was done a while ago but the madison bars or battleships are supposed to be used on metal boxes only, not with plastic. If the metal bars ever came into contact with outlet and you didnt know it, the bar could become live on a plastic box. Even if the bar got close and created an arc to the outlet, it could heat up and potentially cause a fire, think of it like a loose connection. If it was a metal box then the breaker would trip because the bars would be bonded because of the metal to metal contact. The correct box to use would be the smart boxes which has two screws inside that would screw into the stud, since that was a new work box it wouldnt be a problem to be close to the stud. I would have your electricain buddy go to Northeast Electric across from the Ice center up in Salem and get you a smart box.
Thanks for the info. I have an Biz account there also so I can pick one up. Do you have a pic of a smart box. Like to see what it looks like.
