Chimney liner ??

Hey all, i have an extra area in my house for another woodstove. I can get a beautiful vermont casting, old defiant in mint condition. Do i need a liner or pipe in this chimney? Can you do it yourself?? How much??

 

Yes put a liner. Yes you can do it yourself. $450-500 bucks for a flex liner and top cap


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I’m old school, would have no prob using that flue the way it is. The tiles look like they are new. I’m sure I’m probably wrong...

 

Flue looks great but what are interior dimensions??

 

I would definitely drop an insulated liner in there. I bought mine off of Rockford Chimney supply just Google it. I have referred a few to them and no complaints. They even have oval liners if that clay liner is not big enough to at least drop a 6" round in.

 

Yep, "Will it fit?" is the question. And is the Defiant 8" flue? I don't think that's going to fit, with insulation..

That's an option.

 

That flue looks pretty big...doubt a modern stove will draft very well on it without a liner...insulated if at all possible...because most masonry chimneys do not have proper CTC (clearance to combustibles)

 

Without measuring it, it s pretty big i think a pipe would easily fit down there. As for the defiant the opening coming out of the stove is oval so like the last old defiant i had it wouldneed an adaptor. I have an 8 inch opening on the other side for my other wood stove and i just used a reducer. I just cant believe the condition of this stove i found. Here is the pic of what i wanted but its too big for our area. Its the black one, the other is gas.

 

Ill get a pic of the VCD later, its 2 mins down the road

 

I think the draft is good too, when i remove the duct tape and plastic theres a crazy breeze. When you put a pipe in how is it secured for cleaning so when your brushing it stays in place

 

the liner clamps (large hose clamp) to the top chase cover and then at the bottom to the thimble adapter.

 

It’s been a long time since I’ve had a VC so I hope I am remembering correctly. The Defiant runs an 8 inch flue but can run a 6 inch flue if you don’t put the fire screen in. My old VC had two different adapters that bolt to the stove for the size selection. I’m not sure which Defiant you are getting so I could be incorrect.

 

Woodwhore that black stove is a beauty!!

 

Unfortunately a good "draft" when you have the flue wide open does not necessarily equate to a proper working chimney...its kinda like when Ricky Racer puts a giant cam in his V8, it may run like a molested ape at high RPMs/wide open, but run like crap/no power at low RPMs (where you spend most of your time) much the same with a chimney, a modern stove designed to run on a 6" flue will not do well at all on a 6" x 11" masonry flue (just for example) because modern stoves just don't waste enough heat up the flue to maintain a draft...with that said, maybe a Defiant does?
A 6" round SS liner is only ~28 sq in, less than half of that 66 sq inches I mentioned before...much easier to keep warm and drafting, especially with the optional insulation wrap on it (highly recommended, both for performance, and the CTC safety I mentioned earlier)

 

I know i love it, its just too big so im gonna go for the old vermont casting defiant. Ill get pics soon

 

I want to build a remote cabin just so I can have one of those! I've had some fantastic meals cooked on/in one of those in a hunting camp in the middle of nowhere.

 

Mwalsh9152 dad has a white enamel one at camp with bread warmer, water warmer and other stuff IDK what it is. Camp is 20 x 20 garage with no running water or electric. Before my mom passed with cancer oh, we made a turkey Thanksgiving dinner up there. That turkey, 27 pounder took 16 hours to cook with cherry and Maple. Best turkey ever Great memory.