I have a Stihl 660 I'm looking to trade for something smaller. I'd interested in something that can pull an 18" bar with 3/8" chain so I don't have to carry different chains. More or less work something where it's equal value... 2 small saws, small saw and cash, etc. Mostly interested in the pro line of saws. The 660 goes for $1200 new. The saw is in good shape. Has normal wear and tear. The previous owner did paint it at one point (I've had it for about 2 years). It's an ok job. Expect to have this saw to use, not to put in a museum. It was sold as being a good saw, but when I got it, it didn't run right. Wouldn't idle (unless you figure 6000rpm is idle). Also I found that the clutch was missing springs and the cylinder had buggered up threads for the spark plug. It did hold the plug, but I didn't trust it. Went through it and it got a carb rebuild, new gaskets, new clutch, Nikisil 56mm cylinder, new piston/rings, rod, crank, bearings, muffler, decomp button. 170psi compression. Ran great last time I used it, just I have a bad back and it's too heavy for me to use all day. It's a beast! Has about 6 cords on the new parts, so it's broken in and running nicely. Have most of the old parts still if you want them, not really any value to them though. I'll get pictures soon, have to get them loaded back up on teh computer.
Yeah, it was deleted. Just to put it out there again. That OEM jug is superior to the Aftermarket Big Bore jug. I would include that in the sale. The plating, port timing, and casting are all better on the OEM jug.
It was removed because of all the off topic and negative posts. I don't think a classified ad post needs to become an open discussion to nit pick every "fault" of the sellers item. The info I put in the description is accurate to the best of my knowledge. I'm not trying to pass off a chit sandwich for a steak diner or anything as such. I'm not sure why, but several members seem to be fixated with the fact that it has aftermarket parts and therefore it's "no good".
Oh, I didn't see that it had gotten that far off the rails. What did you think of Mastermind's offer of his 361? I don't know enough about your saw, or his, to judge how even the trade would've been, but setting aside the comparative value question a 60-ish cc saw is what I'd pick for an 18" bar, and it would be significantly lighter than a 660 or 460. It seemed to fit your criteria so well that when you didn't respond, it left me wondering what you were actually looking for.
I replied asking the condition. That is when another random member with a similar username posted it was torn apart in a box, but come to find out that wasn't the saw in question even. I never heard from mastermind.
He participates in several forums and is only seen around here in fits and starts, so he may not have read your PM. You could always try calling him -- his business phone number is in his signature line. An 064 is the biggest saw I've owned, and since the 660 is another pound heavier I can certainly imagine why you wouldn't want to carry it around all day if you didn't have to. You mentioned in the thread about MasterMech's 034 that you weren't up on every model of saw. You obviously like Stihl products, so I'd say you're looking for an 034, 036, MS360 or MS361, all of which will run an 18" bar very handily. The 361 is the newest model of that lineup, and is four pounds lighter than your 660 and more than 2 pounds lighter than the 460. Gets better gas mileage, too.
Mastermind did answer?? He said it was in decent or good shape and that it was not ported. Your saw shows some wear and is no shelf queen. Yea he never posted a pic but I believe he answered it? Yea there was a side combo on this but its a forum and that happens. Call mastermind. He is looking for 660 parts and he wants your OE stuff not the big bore kit as that does not help your value. He is a straight up guy he offered a trade and buildssaws iI dont think he is go Nah trade you some half blown out saw for yours, he has a reputation to uphold after all. His business relies on what others think of him.
I'm looking for Stihl because that is what my dealer works on, also it's what I have bars and chains for. I'd rather keep it easy to get parts & service. It's not because I think any other saw is not worthy by any means. I could stick a stock sized cylinder and piston on it, but I really don't understand why several folks think the oversized is bad?
But your 660 is not worth $900 anymore I bet there closer in value than you think if the 361 is decent OE shape and has strong compression. Others are a better expert on price than me though.
There are good condition 660's on Fleabay at the $850 buy it now price. Not sure if they'll sell that high.
I don't think I said $900? I'm not sure what a 361 sold for new. I'm seeing prices of around $600, does that sound right?
I think $600 is closer to realistic bit I dont think id pay that with the AM stuff. But im watching and not buying.
The 361 sold for just around $750 new. Your 660 (no pics for any newcomers) was about $1,200. But those are new prices. Some 660's sell as low as $400-$500 (running in decent shape), and as high as, well, around $1,200. The 361 still fetches good money used. I sold mine for close to $500 last summer (2 of them). Now, condition and parts also come into play. I would include your OEM jug. As stated before and above, the port timing, plating, and cast quality of the stock jug is far superior to the Aftermarket Big Bore jug. Not to say it doesn't run good now. But if I was to buy it? I would want that jug to put back on. Even if I had to put an insert in the spark plug hole. Also, every thread gets off track a little. But more posts and more people will sell it faster. Now all the people that were subscribed to your old thread, are not getting updates now. And Randy did say he had a 361. But then 2 posts later, he also said that he didn't see you were in Alaska. And that Shipping would be quite high. So he may be out on a trade.. And he is a busy man. He ports hundreds of saws every year. I have a saw that will coming home Tuesday from him. My 362C-M It is the newest version of the 36 series (started as an 034, to an 034 Super, then 036, 036 Pro, MS 360 Pro, MS 361, MS 362, and now MS 362C-M). He does a damm fine job and gets around 30% or better increases in power. Send your 460 to him and you will be amazed when it returns home. My 460 eats 660's for breakfast.
It's not the size of the cylinder that hurts the value. It's been proven that most of the big bore kits do not run as strong as the stock parts and some even have problems with port timing and "free-porting" that reduce their desirability. The 660 is unique in that even the stock cylinder does not run as well as it's displacement suggests it might (hence why you don't see a big performance gain over your 460). There are ways to fix that and fix it good however. .
Yeah, the prices they sold for when new are not very useful as indicators of current value. I find recent eBay auctions to be very helpful. Take a look at these 660's: $586.01 plus shipping $622 with free shipping $620 plus shipping $624 plus shipping We can't see your pics anymore because they were lost with the other thread, and they weren't great pics anyhow, but I have the impression that all of these are cosmetically cleaner than yours. On the other hand, you might find someone who would pay more for yours because it's been recently rebuilt. Keep in mind that eBay prices tend to be higher than prices outside of eBay because of the huge market that eBay gives you access to, but eBay and PayPal take about 13% right off the top, so when a saw sells for $600, the seller gets about $522. That's what I was thinking of when I said in the other thread that your saw was probably worth about $500, give or take a bit. On the bright side, your 660 is still surely worth more than a 361 would be in similar condition. I think it ought to be enough to get you a very nice, lightly-used 361, or a near-mint 036.
