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Out with the old....

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  1. lukem

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    My 10 year old son (who is huge for is age) is ready for a "real" bow. Rather than buy him a nice new one, not knowing if he will stick with archery) I decided to trade up my 16 YO son to my old bow and hand his down to the 10 YO. That means dad gets a new rig.

    The old bow had turbo cams and was fast, aggressive, and and downright fun to shoot laser beams and blow through just about anything. Every deer I shot was a complete pass through and stuck several inches into the ground.

    I'm not getting any younger so I went a little tamer this time, although I don't think it is that much slower.

    New on the left, old on the right.

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    a matthews fan I see. How is she shooting?
     
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  3. lukem

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    Hoyt, actually.

    I only shot a few, but so far I like it. Hoping to get some time with it this evening if the weather cooperates.
     
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    Did some shooting on the new setup last night. It shoots way better than I can. I shot one 4 shot group at 60 yards that was 4" and felt like I left a lot of meat on the bone to do better. My eyesight is probably the limiting factor on accuracy now.

    I'm also surprised by how fast it shoots. On paper it is 16 FPS slower than my old one, but is no doubt faster shooting the same arrows. Once I got the sight housing zeroed for my top pin all the others were shooting high by 4"-6" and I had to tighten them up. Now I'm thinking about building a super heavy arrow for this season.
     
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    sorry for the mistake.... I bought the ultra 7 earlier this year. I love it.
     
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  6. lukem

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    I declined to shoot one of those because I knew if I did it would have come home with me.
     
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    I have around 300 arrows down range and the new bow is an absolute tack driver. When I do my part, which isn't all that often, it will shoot 1" groups at 30 yards. I can usually make that happen 1 out of 4 times.... The rest are 2" groups.

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    Very nice! I'm sure your boy will be thrilled with that as his first "real bow".

    I recently upgraded to a newer model elite and just got it back today from my string guy. New set of custom strings/cables, leveled the new sight and a dozen new arrows. I had to jump to a heavier spine because the new bow is quite a bit faster than the old one. After getting it dialed in at 20yds I had to send a few at 60yds for sight tape purposes. I was happy with this group after my second round of 3 arrows @60yds

    I still have the old synergy as a backup because it just shoots so dang smooth but this new ritual is pretty sweet.

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  9. lukem

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    My 16YO shot this at 100 tonight.

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    I tend to stay out of archery shops. :makeitrain":makeitrain"

    Im do for a new bow, but holding off.
    I love shootimg compound BUT I will admit I will take my son's xbow out in late season or 2nd season, when the temps are pretty cold and Im heavy layered.
     
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    I have been shooting almost every night since I bought the new bow. It is so much nicer to have a bow that doesn't feel like it is set to "kill" all the time (pun intended). This one draws, holds, and shoots almost like a target bow compared to the old one. I was able to get rid of the stabilizer since it holds so good, but now that I fixed some form stuff I might put it back on there.

    Even though the bow shoots great, I was shooting like absolute trash. For every good shot (felt like a good shot when it broke) I would have 2 or 3 bad ones. I got super frustrated which, as we all know, instantly makes things worse. I've since went back and refreshed all my reading/videos from the basics all the way up to some pretty nerdy stuff over the past 2 weeks and I'm shooting way, way better. No more shanks, yanks, and flyers.

    I had to make the following changes:
    1. Ditched the bow wrist sling. Going from the old bow to the new bow it was too short and torqueing my shot. It may have always been like that. Dunno.
    2. Adjusted the length on my release to make it longer. My anchor was inconsistent (and probably always has been).
    3. Went from 30" draw to 30.5" draw. 5 years ago on the last bow we had to set up a longer D loop because the bow maxed and 30". This bow has a standard size D loop, and with my release being too short caused me to put a ton of face pressure on the string to get my peep lined up. Now the tip of my nose barely brushes the string and everything lines up perfect.

    I went deep down the internet/youtube rabbit hole on this one, but it was worth it.

    Now that I went down the rabbit hole I realized that I need to start building my own arrows. I know that I don't need to, but I need to.
     
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    Made these today...hope to see how they fly tonight. Left helical offset on the Bitz jig.

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    Are the wraps reflective?
     
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    Not really. Not any more than the finish on my sight or quiver. Not totally flat, but not shiny either.
     
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    IF I ever build my own (not likely-ever) reflective wraps are nice so that they are easily found after a shot in the dark. Wish mine had them.
    How did your new arrows fly?
     
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    Dunno. Been too busy and now I have a work trip. Maybe Friday.
     
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    I built these the other day. Easton Axis + Flex Fletch Silent Knight 3".
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    Nice work, that is consistency!
     
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