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New White Ash Disease/Disorder Identified

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  1. Boog

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    When I built my house in "83" I wanted to plant a "big" shade tree off my southwest corner. With 25 acres of woods, I figured I would just dig and transplant a tree from "out back" versus buying something. Being before the days of EAB discovery, what did I pick out, a nice 10' local white ash sapling of course! :(

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    The tree has grown very nicely over the last 30 years until the EAB got a foothold in it. Its now dying out slowly dropping small branches/twigs. Just a matter of time now. Recently though, I have begun to appreciate another disease/disorder attacking it. This is characterized by a thinning of the bark above the base of the tree to the point that it is quite noticeable now. The tree has taken on a subtle "hour-glass" appearance.

    There is an "official" name for this disease, anyone know what it is? I'll post the answer if no one can guess it!

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    Beaver?

    I really have no idea, and will look at my trees since I have quite a few ash around, 2 dead. Will eat some popcorn while waiting for responses.

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    Canine pizzing post disorder.
     
  4. Boog

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    :rofl: :lol: Warmer
     
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    Too low for a hammock.....
    From a dog chain?
     
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  7. Boog

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    Nope, getting colder. "pizzing post was closer than chain". I'll give you a hint. There is a 70's rock song about this disease. If you think you got it, post up the song!
     
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    Tied a yellow ribbon on it?
     
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    :rofl: :lol: Good try, I forgot about that song, besides, that was an oak tree! (type of tree actually has nothing to do with it)
     
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    Going out on a "limb" here :rofl: :lol:

    How about:

     
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  12. Boog

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    Nope, you were closer with the beaver! I don't ever remember hearing that tune before!
     
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    Don't know what you guys are talking about but I'm sure you know that the EAB does make the tree start losing bark. Here is one picture I took several years ago. It is the one that is really light colored. The outside of the bark just starts flaking off.
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    Most times after this happens, the tree will start sending out new twigs, usually quite low in the tree. It is trying to survive, but it is all in vain.


    The good news is that you will have several years yet when you can enjoy that ash tree. We still have trees standing 12 years after the infestation. After they finally quit having any leaf at all, then you should begin thinking about cutting if you haven't already. When it starts looking bad, being by the house, I'm sure you'll do what has to be done.
     
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    Good points there. "Frail" bark may have accelerated the process going on here but it is not the "disease" that is causing it, I have a photograph of the cause to post up later. I'm going to plant this tree's replacement soon next to it, so that it can get a start on things while I still enjoy the ash for a few more years.

    Looks like you guys are going to need more hints! Well Seasoned and Paul Bunion were on the right tract right out of the gate but have cooled since then.
     
  15. Grizzly Adam

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    Cat scratch fever.
     
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    Darn it... You beat me too it! :)
     
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    Well, since no one else has gone there.......I'm gonna' guess it's your favorite "pee tree" when you're outside.
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    Nice Grizzly :thumbs:



    Here's the culprit, on a pin oak down the yard years ago! Pushing 16 now.

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