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  1. Woodwhore

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    No.

    Wait. Which part?
    50%? Thats gotta be a typo...or somebody doesn't know what they're talking about.

    Generally, a rick, rack or face cord is sort of recognized as 1/3 of a cord. But... thats only if the wood is bucked to 16" in length. Anything less would not add up to 42.6666 cubic feet. (1/3 of 128 cf)

    Yes, Pa has a law about selling only by the cord OR a fraction there of.
     
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    Some areas, like Western NY, seem to favor the face cord. Some places, so much so, that a face cord is mistakenly (or possibly deceptively) referred to as a cord.
     
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    The 50% seemed crazy
     
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    I feel like around here in NH and Mass. the amount of people being sold so called seasoned wood is nuts, its like an epidemic
     
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    I've seen plenty of ads here that picture stacks of logs "seasoned 2 years" and
    will custom cut and split to "your length/size"

    That's deceptive at best, and shows no concern for the buyer's safety.
     
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    Correct with PA, though by looking at CL and FB marketplace most dont adhere to the law.

    Or adhere to "seasoned" firewood
     
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    Extremely true.

    That's why I feel the need to specify "full cord" vs just "a cord".

    Around here "a cord" means "face cord".

    And I definitely prefer my wood to have less than 50% moisture content.
    :faint:

    :rofl: :lol::rofl: :lol:
     
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    I'd have to use moisturizer on my wood to get it to 50% moisture content.

    :rofl: :lol::rofl: :lol:
     
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    A cord of wood is a legally defined volume. It will be backed by a states weight and standards division. Anything else is open to interpretation and ambiguity.

    A rick or a truck load is not a legal measurement. My grandfather owned and operated a sale barn for years and called auctions up to 5 days a week. Usually a stack of firewood was sold as "what you see is what your bidding on". It wasn't defined by a cord, wasn't sold by the cord. Cash money for a pile of wood.

    I learned real early that when I sold firewood my truck load it was bigger than most others. You'd try to get about 1/3 of a cord stacked in the yard for the best price.

    My experiences are in MO and IA.
     
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    I called Massachusetts weights and measures and they said cord is no longer used you should be advertising the amount of cubic feet you are selling. That way you can sell any amount of wood you want.
     
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    Each state has a different rule/law. Here in NJ I believe you have to sell by the cord or fraction thereof. Don't quote me on that though
     
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    I was going to say that I thought in nh firewood needed to be sold in cord/fraction to be leagle but I wasn’t sure and didn’t want to rain on your parade!
     
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    I dont think nh cares really, its the massholes i was concerned with
     
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    So you live like 10 minutes from my house.
     
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    im not a stalker but I have a pretty good idea where you live from the pics you have posted. I’m about 10 min away. I live on the temple side of new Ipswich

    I have lived here all my life. Spend many a night cruising the back roads getting into mischief.
     
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    Most states that I know of it's their Division of Weights & Measures or their version thereof, that regulates it. But... (just to maintain my tradition of stirring up chit) they can only "regulate" regulable commercial entities. In other words Licensed Firewood Dealers or those that in some way are registered with the State Corporation. Just a guy occasionally selling a truck load of wood, they can't get in your business unless you let them.

    That said, if you are using a term like cord or face cord, that some agency has created a legal definition for and you advertise by that term, you better meet that definition or you customers can use those established standards to hold your feet to the fire. If you aren't registered or licensed or otherwise contractually tied to overbearing brother, you can call it what you want, but for your own good, should clearly define what that is and is not. Including how dry it is or isn't. It only benefits you.
     
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    Morse rd rt on the rr bed, house with waterfall
     
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    All the wood kinda gives it away too:rofl: :lol: