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I'm in need of scope help

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  1. FarmerJ

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    It did Get send in for warranty. Four times.

    They finally replaced the 3 to 9 with a 4 to 12
     
  2. Eggshooterist

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    A couple of the guys I used to shoot with had them. They were nice too. There are several I am forgetting I'm sure. Doctors was a brand a couple had. I'm with you on low magnification for deer, hence my 1-4x.
     
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    Euro optics has a nice selection as does optics planet and SWFA. SWFA sells many brands as well as their own. If you have a Cabela's close enough or a bass pro, they usually have a big selection you can actually touch and look through.
     
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    I must reiterate that my use of the turrets for raising or lowering impact is only in a target / competition setting. It is impractical and often impossible in many hunting situations that deer hunters encounter. I use hold overs points in my reticle for deer. People who are taking long range shot out west at animals that are 100's of yards away might use the turrets as they have more time at those distances. There's a company that builds custom long range hunting rifles, their name currently escapes me, with a 1 moa guarantee out to 1000 yards. They also sell theses replacement turrets for night force scopes that are custom for you exact cartridge and conditions you hunt in. They require the bullet, weight, muzzle velocity, ballistic coefficient ect to make the turret. Whats special about them is they have 1-10 on them which corresponds to yardages for your rifle / cartridge. No guessing or remembering clicks. If that deer is at 500 you set it to 5 ect.
     
  5. Screwloose

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    I understand that would not be practical for any hunting I might do but I'm probably going to stick to paper targets for the foreseeable future and it could be a challenge to see if I could figure it out...... someday anyway.
     
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    It is cool to do especially if the scope cooperates.
     
  7. Sawdust Man

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    Hey egg,
    You actually shoot eggs?
    We used to do that, but found potatoes to be far more satisfying targets.
    I like to line up about a dozen spuds and blast em with the 45-70 at around 5 yards.
    Cabbage is another of our favorites....
     
  8. Eggshooterist

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    We did yes. The club my wife and I shot at goes through 25-30,000 eggs a year. Not a typo, 30,000... We competed in 100 yard 22 rim fire on grade A medium eggs and center fire @ 200 / 300 yards using grade A smalls. I eventually let my membership lapse and we do know your limits shooting on steel at home on our 400 yard range. Those targets go from 2"down to 1/4" wide in 1/4" increments for rim fire and the center fire targets start at 2.5" and go down to 1/2". Also in 1/4" increments. We have a larger set that's 8" on the large and 2" on the small for non target type rifles. Still fun to hear that smack regardless of the plate size. Lol
     
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    That's a lotta eggs.:jaw:

    I enjoy steel as well, I have done zero competition shooting, but my boys and me know how to have a great day at the range......I hate rules.... always have.... got enough of those from the govt. don't want any rules around me when I'm having fun.... (other than regular old common sense), I'd be disqualified in about 1 second at an organized shooting event.... cause I'd break the rules.....:headbang:
     
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    That's what turned me off on the clubs. I was a member of two. Between the good ole boy club within the the club, the politics of the club and them changing the rules at matches to try and get an advantage or restrict better shooters, I let the memberships run out and we do our own thing here with friends or just her and I. No bs, no stress from egomaniacs that think shooting eggs is a life and death event. We made shooting great again. :thumbs:
     
  11. In the Pines

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    Look for things that matter for you in a scope, for example I wanted an etched reticle because wired ones seem to break.
    I'm no scope expert by any stretch (and not trying to pretend I am) or even a long ranger shooter.
    I also wanted a usa scope so that really narrowed it down for quality and not wanting to pay major money either.
    First focal was important to me as well.
    Didn't like the reviews on vortex's and saw the quality issues with leupolds. I like mine, the turrets have nice feel, it was easy to get zero'd in for me.
    This is what I use on my .45 rifle Argos BTR 6-24×50 APMR | Precision Rifle Scope
    it's overkill for it - I don't use the illuminated reticle. Never bothered with it, wasn't a selling point to me.
     
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    I could see putting something like that on my CZ 527 varmint rifle if there is a second focal plane version. It's a 17 Hornady Hornet wearing a Leupold VX II 6-18x40. Non target turrets. I'm wanting the target turrets but I'm not paying Leupold to install them to still have a scope that won't track consistently or return to zero. I'll definitely be investigating Athlon more than I have already.
     
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    In case anyone is interested in the SWFA scope history.

    History | SWFA

    I've had one of their fixed 6 and fixed 20 powers scopes, their 2-10 x 32 ultralight and currently have this on my deer rig.

    1-4x24 | SWFA

    I thought it was a first focal plane version for some reason when I stated that earlier. Its the 1-6 that is ffp.

    I also have this scope in a discontinued 2nd focal plane version.

    3-15x42 | SWFA


    I usually buy from them during their Black Friday sales. I got that 1-4 for $199 last year and the 3-15 a couple years ago for $399.

    They are the best bang for my buck that I've found. They have some nice HD glass scopes as well but all ffp.
     
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    Found one I might put on my 17 hornet. Exactly what I'm wanting. Nice low power setting for close shots and a pretty high power settings for target fun or 300 yard chipmunks ect. Second Focal Plane like I like and HD glass. Side focus. Their warranty is impressive. Even covers damage in normal usage. Thank you for bringing this company back to the forefront of my brain. :thumbs:

    Midas BTR GEN2 4.5-27×50 AHMR SFP IR MOA | Athlon Optics
     
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    It also turns out the SWFA is no longer a multi brand optics retailer. They have moved to only selling their own products as of this year. I sent them an email when I couldn't find anything else on their site.
     
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    Good information here.