I have been kicking around getting a new wood stove. I was looking at a Sutherlands ad and they have the Madison marked down to $581.50. It would replace my Kuma wood stove that I have had since 2002. What do you guys think?
I’ve been looking at these since last year and to be honest, I din’t see much input on them on this forum or others. I do see a lot for sale that are not very old and to me that’s a red flag. We both may be better served by the nc13 or nc30.
IIRC, there are 2 sizes of Madison...the one was OK, but I think they had some trouble with the other. If you google search these things there should be a fair amount of info pop up over on "that other" site...(earth-hay in pig latin )
Yes I agree.I will probably run my Kuma another winter. I also have been looking at the Drolet wood stoves as well.
Just beware that now is a good time to buy...some models will be discontinued after this year...I'm sure selection and prices will go the wrong way after the first of the year...or at least after May 15 2020...when the new regs kick in...see a deal you like, buy it now IMO
All personal specs regarding our house and the wood we use, the NC13 was way too small for us. We now have the old sanded & repainted pre epa free standing stove hanging out from the fireplace, NC30 is miles above the 13.
First of all, I am brand new here, after lurking in the shadows for a while. Second, I recently (last week) pulled the trigger on the Summers Heat Madison (the 01 version). Compared to my old stove ( a USSC APS1100B), this thing is huge. I like the fact that it is considered EPA 2020 compliant (granted, using crib wood, and not cord wood), has the reburn system, and a rather large ash drawer. Another thing I like about it is that it has heat shields pre-installed. After the winter we had here in Western Maine last year, I have to reinstall my Class A Chimney....snow load let go and ripped it off the side of the house. It will be a much better install than the previous install, and the new cricket on the roof will ensure that this one doesn't get ripped off by snow sliding off the metal roof.
The 13 is an awesome heater though. I wish it had longer burn times with the crap wood I scrounge.....................most of my wood is box elder, silver maple and ash. It heats my 1100sq.ft., not open design house just fine using these woods until the temps STAY under 10*F for days...............but then the natural gas furnace kicks in.
Yes, different climates, heat needs, and all we have is lodgepole pine, so we need a big firebox to get more than a few hours out of it before stoking again, and could not do that in the 13, as well as we do not have a furnace... No doubt the 13 is ideal for a lot of people. Still remember that pic of the green grass in your back yard, still envious! There's a movement to get city water installed out here, will be several years but if we do get it I WILL have a yard like yours
I ordered the insulation blanket and going to replace the secondary burn tubes in my Kuma. The secondary burn tubes in the Kuma are original and its a 2002 stove. The Kuma stoves are heavy built and I get great burn times out of it for only being a 1.7 cu.ft fire box.
Is something wrong with them? That's not normally considered a "maintenance" item...about the only thing that can wrong with them is warping/drooping if its run extremely hard, or overfired
Supposedly some people chuck wood in with such force that they actually bend these tubes out of shape. I've never burned through an air tube either and mine are usually glowing!
No, my reborn tubes are not damage from chucking wood in. They are not sagging from being burnt up or the stove being over fired. My stove still has most of the original firebricks in it.
