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450 vs 450 Rancher chain and bar.

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  1. schlot

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    I have a Rancher 450. I just bought a new bar and chain for it...or at least I thought I did. It looks like the chain and bar are for a 450.

    I notice how much deeper the teeth are as compared to the original Rancher chain.

    The 450 chain is also much more aggressive, which i really like. The question is, is it possible to convert the Rancher to accept this chain?

    Thanks in advance.
     
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    I thought 455 and 460 were the new saws called Rancher. Sounds like you have .325 and bought 3/8. Get the #s off your bar and post them. And you can change .325 to 3/8...new sprocket, bar and chain. But a 450 will pull better with .325.
     
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    Yes the 450 rancher runs .325 nk (narrow kerf) or picco as its sometimes called and will be .050. It will pull better with that set up and a 20". If you go to a smaller bar, say 16" you can run the 3/8 pitch, in a .050 or .058 that doesn't really matter. The sproket will have to be changed for the 3/8 though.
     
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  4. schlot

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    Here is the old bar. It through two chains very badly (I'm pretty careful with chain tension) so I thought I would try a new bar.

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    Here is the new 450 bar.

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    Is the new chain 325 , 050, 80DL ?
     
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    That appears to be a .325nk bar. And your old bar a Farm tough labeled .325 standard. Got any pics of your chain?
     
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  8. schlot

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    Yes it is. 20160416_210449.jpg
     
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    Original on the left side.

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    Your new chain is a full chisel and the old a semi-chisel. Hence the new appearing more aggressive.
     
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    One on the RT looks like a vanguard chain
     
  12. schlot

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    So would a sprocket change like Sconnie Burner said let me us the new chain/bar...and would it be expensive or a pain in the rear-end to change it out?
     
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    That's catching me as well. And I didn't think there was a chisel nk chain.


    Sprockets should be the same. Was the chain box unopened when you got it?
     
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    Nope sealed tight Husky chain.

    What caught my attention is when I rotated the chain on the new bar after I installed it. It was fine when there was a ton of slack, but when I tightened it up like normal it didn't feel good at all.

    I reinstalled it several times with the same result, that's when I noticed the new chain links were deeper.
     
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    [​IMG]

    This is what Bailey's is showing as a h30 husky chain.
     
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    Old chain on top.

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    Vanguard #72 3/8" chain. It won't fit the motor sprocket or the bar sprocket. That's why it's jumping the sprockets. Don't know about your saw, but changing sprockets is a 5 minute job on most saws. Your drive sprocket might be due for replacement anyhow. Post a picture of it so the boys can check it out.
     
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    As OldJack said that's a 3/8 chain. It won't work on your setup. Somehow it found its way into the wrong box.
     
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    Here is the sprocket

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