In loving memory of Kenis D. Keathley 6/4/81 - 3/27/22 Loving father, husband, brother, friend and firewood hoarder Rest in peace, Dexterday

Best and or creative way to kill bagworms on our arborvitaes?

Discussion in 'Everything Else (off topic)' started by brenndatomu, Jul 18, 2019.

  1. brenndatomu

    brenndatomu

    Joined:
    May 29, 2015
    Messages:
    20,556
    Likes Received:
    128,105
    Location:
    NE Ohio
    Have quite a few large arborvitaes here, noticed some dead foliage here recently, then seen the wiggly bags the other day...these bushes are too large and numerous to hand pick all the bags...is it too late? These bushes need trimmed back or removed, but I don't want to lose them all at once! Plus I know these guys will kill other species too...there has to be a way of getting these guys!
    Thought about torching them, but don't want to damage the bushes too much, and right next to the house too!
     
  2. rottiman

    rottiman

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2013
    Messages:
    14,437
    Likes Received:
    95,932
    Location:
    XXXXXXXXXXX
  3. bear 1998

    bear 1998

    Joined:
    Oct 29, 2017
    Messages:
    2,016
    Likes Received:
    16,251
    Location:
    S.C.Pa
    are you talkin about tentworms?
     
  4. brenndatomu

    brenndatomu

    Joined:
    May 29, 2015
    Messages:
    20,556
    Likes Received:
    128,105
    Location:
    NE Ohio
    No, bagworms...here's a pic. They hole up in those little "pods" that they make.
    [​IMG]
     
  5. bear 1998

    bear 1998

    Joined:
    Oct 29, 2017
    Messages:
    2,016
    Likes Received:
    16,251
    Location:
    S.C.Pa
    always on a pine?....
     
  6. fishingpol

    fishingpol

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2013
    Messages:
    6,502
    Likes Received:
    39,621
    Location:
    Merrimack Valley, Ma.
  7. brenndatomu

    brenndatomu

    Joined:
    May 29, 2015
    Messages:
    20,556
    Likes Received:
    128,105
    Location:
    NE Ohio
  8. bear 1998

    bear 1998

    Joined:
    Oct 29, 2017
    Messages:
    2,016
    Likes Received:
    16,251
    Location:
    S.C.Pa
    what info you have there is what we have done....its a pain in the @$$....but it basically took care of our problem after a year (season).....
     
  9. brenndatomu

    brenndatomu

    Joined:
    May 29, 2015
    Messages:
    20,556
    Likes Received:
    128,105
    Location:
    NE Ohio
    You sprayed, or hand picked 'em? I'd need a bucket truck to get to the top of some of them...plus there 15-20 of them.
    I would spray them but it sounds like its too late since they are in the pods already...unless there are many more that are not yet?
     
  10. TurboDiesel

    TurboDiesel

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2013
    Messages:
    16,054
    Likes Received:
    95,679
    Location:
    Hollidaysburg Pa
    Chaz and Chvymn99 like this.
  11. TurboDiesel

    TurboDiesel

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2013
    Messages:
    16,054
    Likes Received:
    95,679
    Location:
    Hollidaysburg Pa
    will711 might have something up his sleeve.
     
  12. eatonpcat

    eatonpcat

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2013
    Messages:
    8,487
    Likes Received:
    45,946
    Location:
    Eaton Township, OH
    Most likely that's gonna be a backup Blue Smoothie!
     
    Chaz, TurboDiesel, will711 and 4 others like this.
  13. lukem

    lukem

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2013
    Messages:
    11,158
    Likes Received:
    57,618
    Location:
    IN
    Once they pod up like that, it's almost too late to spray. The ones in the bag aren't doing any more damage...it's the ones outside the bag you have to try to kill.

    You can spray them with Bt when they are larvae (outside the bag), which they all might already be past that stage. If you have an electric powered pump sprayer with a wand you could probably get to 20'-25' up.

    I would give them a good spray down next June.
     
  14. bear 1998

    bear 1998

    Joined:
    Oct 29, 2017
    Messages:
    2,016
    Likes Received:
    16,251
    Location:
    S.C.Pa
    yes i sprayed early before they start there pods.....mid spring for here in s.c. pa
     
  15. Backwoods Savage

    Backwoods Savage Moderator

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2013
    Messages:
    43,448
    Likes Received:
    268,958
    Location:
    Central MI
    The worm looks almost exactly the same but that is the end of comparison.
     
    Chaz and brenndatomu like this.
  16. will711

    will711

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2013
    Messages:
    10,270
    Likes Received:
    50,825
    Location:
    Pocono Mts.
    That would be right :cheers:
     
  17. brenndatomu

    brenndatomu

    Joined:
    May 29, 2015
    Messages:
    20,556
    Likes Received:
    128,105
    Location:
    NE Ohio
    So I sprayed the bushes with Spectracide Triazicide last week...probably too late, a lot of damage done already but I could hear some of these dirty buggers munching away still, so...can't hurt IMO.
    Anyways, going forward I want to apply something like the BT that was recommended (or some form of "systemic spray") and even though I need to concentrate on making a big plan of attack for next spring, it sounds to me like I could spray one of these systemic sprays now since it gets absorbed into the plant...or will it be "gone" out of the plant by next spring if I do it now?

    Here is the article I read about this...

    Systemic Spray
    "Spray affected plants with a ready-to-use systemic insecticide that contains acephate, imidacloprid or dinotefuran. Systemic formulas do not kill bagworms directly. The active ingredient is absorbed into plant leaves and needles, and then circulated throughout the plant. The insects die when they feed on plant parts and plant sap. These products are particularly effective because they kill caterpillars even when you miss a few affected branches."
     
    wildwest, Chvymn99 and Eric VW like this.
  18. billb3

    billb3

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2013
    Messages:
    9,815
    Likes Received:
    50,402
    Location:
    SE Mass
    The advantage to systemic sprays is the insecticide circulates throughout the whole plant
    The problem with systemic insecticides is they persist throughout the plant poisoning anything and everything that feeds on every part of the plant from the root tips to the plant top. Including bees that visit flowers.

    I use a lot of BT. It is still considered safe for bees as far as I've read and yeah, timing is everything. It is most effective when your target caterpillars are still small.
     
    brenndatomu likes this.