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Weight testing oak

Discussion in 'The Wood Pile' started by Heat550, Oct 25, 2018.

  1. Boomstick

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    From the picture, the axles should be further back. On the trailer......They look centered. In trailer design there is a %70 rule not 50/50 as relation to axle placement.
    It helps tounge weight distribution. And helps with the issues others have pointed out.
    I would keep the weight just in front of the trailer axles.

    Don't listen to the ninny's.
    The 5.3 and 60-65e are fine. It's not power-durablity limited. If the trans dies it will be common wear.
    Just manushift it to keep it from shifting back and forth under load.
    I do the same with a 4.2 trailblazer. Just full logs. I have more combined towing weight/miles than most diesel owners I know.

    Avalanche springs have a better spring rate, and are cheap.
     
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    I love Suburbans. I’ve owned two that look just like yours, still have one of them, a 2001. The other was a 2003; it got t-boned and totaled. But I can tell you that you were definitely overloaded. With the 5.3, I’m guessing you are geared at 3.73. The tow limit on my 2001 is 7,300 lbs. On my 2003 it was 7,100lbs. Not sure why they changed it. When my camper is loaded up, it is pushing those limits. That engine can certainly handle it, maybe slowly up a long hill, but it will do the work. The transmission (4L60) will be your weak spot with loads like you are pulling. I now also have a 2004 with the 6.0 and 4.10 gears and the 4L80 transmission; I have a lot more confidence with that transmission.

    Careful with those heavy loads, ad definitely move the load forward. Too much weight at the back will definitely cause problems as others have said.


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  3. Heat550

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    Thanks for all the input . On my maiden voyage of slab hauling. I used info from everyone's input and I got the fix . And in pictures I used a line referance technique on computer to confirm the issues. Everyone might find interesting and it might help others that are new to tandem trailers . I'm going to haul less and keep eye on the ball scale .. if anyone has used them let me know how they. I have one on order.

    Straight on pictures coming in next load . lol[​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]

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  4. Heat550

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    Yes 3:73 with towing package full 2 axel electric brakes ( AKA: sway stopper ) Prodigy controller.
    Coil over shocks in back . And towing light on . 1 St gear went 3000 rpm to get it rolling 20 mph lol.
    12,000 lb weight distribution hitch.
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    What is the weight GTW rating on the 2 5/16” ball? I only found them to be rated for 10k lbs. Your hitch, ball mount, ball and trailer should all be rated for the intended trailer load... the limit to your GTW will be determined by the weakest link in the chain..
     
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    One we had on there was 14,000 lb ball . The one with scale is 10,000 lb . Once I get feel where to set everything I can always throw the 14,000 lb ball back on .

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    Ive got a 01 Yukon Denali in the exact same color. 6.0 liter. Ive been impressed over the years with the power and tranny. The soft rear suspension. Not so much:whistle:
     
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    There's a flooring mill nearby that sells bundles of oak slabs that are bundled up the same way. They claim about a cord to a bundle. $50 a bundle and they will also deliver for a $. I've been tempted as I've done slabs in the past .
     
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    Here's wood hauling tip . Before I left to get slabs I torque trail lug nuts 100ftlbs after 12,080 lb loaded and hauled unloaded. I retorqued trailer lugs nuts again I had to turn nuts another 1/4 of turn before they were at 100ft lbs again. They either seated better or loosen them self's. lol Maxing out loads have there added issues.

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    I hope it's not metal fatigue.
     
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    $50 is a lot compared to around here, they go for anywhere from$15-40 if you can pick them up.
    How far are you hauling Heat550 ? The few times a year I get wood from the dump I only have time for one load, so I load it full as I can get it, which is never too much for the trailer or truck, but I have no trailer brakes (no worries everyone it's only a 5*10 single axle home-made trailer built better than the stuff you can buy), so I take it real slow 40 mph tops the 7 miles of back roads home. Truck usually is about half full and trailer is full as I can get it. If I was going 40 miles for the wood, I would be much more careful on loading, putting less on all together for safetys sake.
     
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    WOW! I was thinking as i watched the video, "that looks like eastern oregon, I-84 on the columbia" i was close, checked out the video, 82 east bound in Wash state. Both sides almost look identical at times, i've been up and down on both sides.
     
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    Now whats crazy this only 1 inch drop on hitch from load . 2 bundle load it trailed perfect. 65 mph . Seems on suburban it needs that tongue weight .
    Loads shifted forward more then I ever guess. Must because Axel's are so far forward.[​IMG]

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    To me, that trailer looks like a recipe for problems. Not your load, the trailer itself.
     
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    I know it's what I have to deal with for now . Seems this is the loading technique I have to use. I will make a trailer next year . But my last picture is the best setup so far trailered perfect down the road .Suburban with 2 inch squat with weight distribution hitch. I think it be 4-6 inch squat without weight distribution hitch.

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    Bought one of them 2 5/16 balls with scale .
    It shows right at 800 lbs on hitch how I load . It's like perfect but I can only haul 2 bundles as 3 is little out of reach for my setup . Hauling oak is a big deal . Weight transfer on tandems is a big deal also.
    It's all part of wood hauling game lol. Last point 2002 suburban with coil overs in back . 5 inches on top of receiver squat is 800 lbs . That's without weight distribution hitch. It was mentioned before in this thread guy was right on the money .



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    Tail of the tape hauling debarked oak slabs . With 2002 suburban. I'm at total 39,600 lbs in the yard and still hauling to a squat on hitch at 12.5 inches can go as fast as my nervs can take . Trailer and load averages 8000-9000 lbs.. bit of wood hoarding info.

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    Dialed in trailer to load it's like perfect now .

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    There is more to this story . After measuring the distance between the tandems on the trail one side measures 37 inch other side 37 1/2 inch . Then I had to figure out witch axel was out of wack.
    Front axel was straight with front hitch . So it's the back axel off 1/2 inch . Then looked at spacing on center equalizers there is more of Gap on passager side. Then that means right hand turn curb hitting .
    Picture with 1 arrow shows bigger gap like it was twisted passager side . Other shows equal on both sides but you can see a bit of the twist. This pretty much tells why when weight is transfer to back axel on bumps and uneven road it starts to wonder and gives suburban bit of pulling around on the steering wheel . Any input on my thinking is well come . I did notice now a bit more tread wear on back tires also but wear is even . Anyone deal with a bad alignment on tandums axel trailer before ? Funny how when you barrow stuff no one else tells you there's issues. lol[​IMG][​IMG]

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