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Critique my setup.....

Discussion in 'Modern EPA Stoves and Fireplaces' started by Marvin, Sep 8, 2018.

  1. Chaz

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    I asked the Woodstock people that when I purchased my IS, as I knew it would drop out of cat range on an overnight burn. They said that by the time you are at coals, there should be no smoke and/or pollutants to cause much of any creosote buildup.

    Seemed to make sense to me, as by then it's not like there's any smoke left, just smoldering heat.
    :yes:

    edit.. brenndatomu types faster than I do it appears.
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  2. Marvin

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    And this is why I like this site so much! Thanks brenndatomu and Chaz! It seems I have much to learn but this is the right place to find the info :salute:
     
  3. Chaz

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    You are soooo not alone in that statement.
    :rofl: :lol:

    Some days it's just BS'ing, but I learn something here on nearly a daily basis.
    Between the 2, can't see why I'd wanna go anywhere else.
    ;)
     
  4. Well Seasoned

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    Everything looks good, but I'll just say that 12" in all directions from the thimble needs to be non combustible when you can get to it. Anything within that area doesn't even need a spark for ignition. It can spontaneously combust just from the constant drying and heating.
     
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  5. Marvin

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    Due to lack of clearance to the ceiling I ordered double wall stove pipe. I put that in this evening so I believe I'm ready to go now. Just waiting on colder weather to start burning.
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    Just saying - Per N.F.P.A. 211 code, any residential or building heating appliance, burning gas, liquid, or solid fuels through a combustible wall, will require an Insulated Wall Thimble as your passageway to connect appliances to interior or exterior masonry chimneys. Insulated Wall Thimbles are designed so the thimble assembly will reduce the minimum 18 inch clearance to combustibles, to a minimum of at least 2" clearance. You should pack insulation snugly against the outside box frame of the thimble, but never place insulation into the area within the thimbles's cylinder.
     
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  7. Marvin

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    The thimble goes out through a poured wall. My parents said they used some kind of fire resistant dry wall on this wall.
    I do have a question though about the stove pipe to thimble connection. I cut the tee snout off flush with the thimble. I then crimped it to fit the stove pipe connector. I couldn't get the crimps back far enough for the connector to sit flush against the wall. Should I stuff rock wool behind the connector as in pic below or leave it bare as in second pic.
    Well Seasoned feel free to chime in here as well as any others with advice.
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    Without rock wool...
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  8. Marvin

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    I should mention the tee snout crimp is inside the connector at least an inch of not more.
     
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    The roxul may help with any draft but that's all. That wall paper is combustible, that should be taken away. If there is durock around that thimble and no studs in the wall you should be ok. You said that's an insulated thimble?
     
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  10. Marvin

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    Yes as far as I'm aware it is an insulated thimble. I will double check with my parents just to be on the safe side.

    My wife will thank you for this statement I'm sure :rofl: :lol:
     
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    dropping out of cat range??? overnite?
     
  12. Chaz

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    Yep, I'll load it in the evening, re-engage cat if it's within range.
    By the time I wake up, it's still throwing heat, but is not within the range in which to engage the cat.

    Load stove, wait till within range, re-engage cat.

    Enjoy days worth of heat.
    :fire:

    Being new to a catalytic stove, I didn't know if it would/could be damaged by being still engaged overnight when the temps drop off.

    They advised me to get a good night's sleep and not to worry, all will be fine.
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    Aaahhhh...... the cat! Sorry buddy, your post just reminded me. I forgot :loco: :crazy:
     
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    The manual for my Fireview says not to worry about that as well. Once lit the cat will create enough of it’s own heat to keep it lit as long as there’s enough smoke but after it cools and the coals get down far enough what little is left just passes through it. There’s not much smoke left at that point. I don’t think it takes much to keep it going once it’s lit though. The fire really has to cool AND the volume of smoke has to be almost nonexistent.
     
  15. double-d

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    I never understood this, but the Double wall Masonry Adapter that goes into the Thimble, that end is a Male end (just the way they are made) and by crimping your Tee pipe, you now have 2 male ends connected together. That may be why you are not getting the Masonry adapter to fit flush to the wall.
     
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    I was kind of puzzled by that as well. I would think they would make it easier by using a female end but the crimping seemed to do the job.