That is tulip poplar. These trees are widely known by the common name tulip tree or tuliptree for their large flowers superficially resembling tulips. The Scientific Greek Liriodendron actually means "lily tree".[3] It is sometimes referred to as tulip poplar or yellow poplar, and the wood simply as "poplar", although not closely related to the true poplars. Other common names include canoewood, saddle-leaf tree, and white wood
Yep, that's tulip poplar. It should burn well, it does dry fairly quickly. Makes some pretty lumber in bigger trees
JA600L , yes when I said ash and poplar in my IS, I meant tulip poplar, I have never seen other types where I am.
Yes, tulip or yellow popple. It would be nice if those who have this make note of which kind it is when posting because we see this a lot when someone talks of popple and I always wonder, which kind is it? It does confuse many people as you can tell by what they post.
Heh, I remember when I first started reading here, and was amazed that some people were able to heat their house an entire winter on only 2-3 cord of wood. Then I caught on that it was FULL cords, not FACE cords. Whenever someone around this area says a cord, they mean a face cord. Kinda got used to thinking in those terms.
I can't believe how commonly people seem to use the term "face cord", especially since you can't seem to get a consistent definition of the term...and there is no legal definition
Chaz the year before my IS I burned 12 cord, I was overjoyed with 4 cord.. Plus I was warmer. Yes I speak of real cords!! I was amazed with 4 cord.. Lot easier if 3 year plan is 12 cord vs. 40
Yeah, quite a bit of improvement there. If I had to bring in 12 full cord per year, it'd be easier to work a ton of overtime to pay the fuel oil company. Not sure what to say, it's always been that way as far as I can recall.
One thing I did think of brenndatomu is that I cut my wood at ~18 inches +/- 2 inches, and so I count 3 face of wood @4x8x* as a full cord. Now if I'm on the 18+ side, then 3 rows is technically more than a full cord, but not enough that I concern myself with the disparity. I guess since many cut to different lengths, it's easier when people are selling firewood to just list it as a cord or more appropriately as a face cord. I'd imagine that some just got tired of explicitly stating that it's a face cord, and just went with cord. I know the wood I purchased is @ 20", but was sold to me in face cord amount. So, for the 9 face I have on hand, it's technically over 3 full cord. Not that this explanation makes it better or worse, just is. Everyone has their pet peeves.
As a bushler ( timber faller that scales everything I cut and get paid down to the last board foot) I tend to be pretty exact on my volumetric measurements. I'm not going to sell 18" wood and get paid for 16" . Hard enough to make a living with firewood without giving away volume. So the term face cord kinda drives me round the twist. However , I do understand people using the term like a coloqwealism For myself and where I live a cord is a cord is a cord. 128 cubic feet of well stacked wood. Some of the beerand drug money guys . Sell it by the pickup load or other strange things. Most people don't keep enough wood onhand as it is without having a smaller unit measurement verbiage. Ok , my rant is over.
Yep, we hear face cord, rick, pickup load, trailer load, etc. I haven't bought or sold wood in so long now I don't get quite as worked up about it. I got tired of trying to explain to people what a cord really is, & that it's the only recognized legal measurement of firewood. My dump trailer is 6' X 12' X 2'. the math on that is 144 cubic feet. Tossed in it's dead on a cord after stacking. Stacked in the trailer it's a bit over. I've got extra sideboards, so stacked full it's 2 cord dead on. Knowing what you buy/sell/burn makes it a lot easier to plan & do business. I burn between 10 & 12 cord per year, & I'm on the three year plan. It's good peace of mind knowing these things. I just put in a new heating system, so I'll have to redo some calculating next Spring to make sure I'm on it. Good post Cold Trigger Finger
I'd say this is true for any poplar. We have quaking and bigtooth Aspen around here. It works well, when you use it as shoulder season wood.
Eh, it's all softwood and IME all poplar burns and seasons pretty much the same. Basswood burns and seasons the same way.
There's the thing, nobody is asking, nor requiring that you do so. If I looked to purchase a full cord of wood, I would expect nothing less than what you are stating. But I'd want it in 16" length so it could be stacked and easily verified. My stove will take a 20" log, and I'm not concerned with selling any wood, so I cut mine to 18" +/- I still consider 3 rows of 4x8x* as a full cord. That's my choice. As stated previously, the person (whom I know quite well) sold me wood per "face cord" @ 20" So, it was 4'x8'x20" per face cord. That was his choice. I honestly have no clue why it's such an issue. If you sell firewood and someone tells you they want you to deliver a 4'x8'x60" load of wood and pay you for a cord, you should tell them to get bent. If my friends FIL sells me that same "cord" exactly what difference is it making to anyone else? I would've bought it from him at 48" or 60", wouldn't have mattered.
NO, I think this face cord thing got started because it sounds like more. Bigger is better sort of thing. After all, someone might say he cut 3 cord of wood while another cuts a cord. What are people to think? But the guy who cut 3 cord, or so he said, was 3 face cord, or the very same amount of wood as the guy who cut only one full cord. Just sounds better to some, especially those who sell. Actually, I look at it as pure laziness as to me it falls into about the same category. Trying to make it sound as if they do more than they actually do. Okay, rant over.
I have a lot of popular around my house but never burn it in the stove. If you need more wood then it will obviously work but I would put labor into higher btu wood.
The problem with a face cord is it really can't be defined as a specific volume as with a cord. It might be 1/3 of a cord, it might not. The other problem is when a face cord is called a cord to deceive.
I find all of this very interesting, because it shows such Regional differences. I was trained by my grandfather, a cord was 128 ft, usually stacked in 3 16 inch rows 4 feet high and 8 feet long. One row was a run or what others call a face cord. Also, we only burned hardwoods, and they were graded also. Sugar maple, oak and hickory were hard woods. Red maple, poplar etc were soft woods. Grandma wood burning cook stove got red maple split small. And don't let her stack in the kitchen run out!! Also you better be able to identify your types of maples. You didn't want to be caught putting red in the sugar pile. The big farm house, insulated with news paper burned about 30 cord a year!! First 6 cord where soft, shoulder season, 20 cord of the good stuff and another 5 or 6 cord of shoulder season wood. When you brought wood in it was usually the nice day of the week so not a blizzard and always brought in a run or 2.. I really appreciate insulation
