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How to compute Stove output BTU ?

Discussion in 'Modern EPA Stoves and Fireplaces' started by bogydave, Dec 14, 2013.

  1. bogydave

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    Is this the right way to calculate stove output in BTUs ?

    I loaded the stove with(14 splits) 83.8 lbs of 3 year seasoned birch
    12% moisture (resinous wood & bark) 8600 BTU/lb (est)
    83.8 X 8600 =
    720,680 BTU in the stove
    Stove is 82% efficient
    720,680 X .82 = 590957

    590,957 BTUs of usable heat in the house when the wood is gone.

    If I get a hour burn, that's roughly 40,000 BTU per hour ?

    15°f, 4 mph wind, 87% humidity, dew point 12°f

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    Doing some checking, I found this..http://www.naturalresources.umd.edu/Publications/PDFs/FS926WoodFuel.pdf, and used 7,000btu/lb for Oak.
    My stove is less efficient than yours by probably 1/2.
    I came up with a yearly need of 126,000,000 btu. Presuming 5 cord/yr., and also presuming all Oak (and nowadays it's actually about 1/2 Oak).
    It can get very detailed very quick. I've done this in the past and came up with a similar #.
     
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    Very good info. I'm sure there's some unforeseen losses not accounted for in the process too. I'd calculate it around 80%. I'm in Erie this weekend but I'll do some calculations of my own when I get home
     
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    Dave I would say that is pretty close to correct. I have tested multiple weighed loads vs calculated heat loss vs tested loss in my house and every which way comes in between 6,000-6,500 BTU per pound of wood heat output. So I would suspect somewhere in the 6,500-7,000 BTU per pound range to be correct with your stove.
     
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    Coming up with accurate BTU numbers is tough.
    Have found numbers from 7600 to 9700 BTUs
    Per pound, resinous wood.
    Tough to get a good BTU per pound # for my birch.
    The drier the wood, the more BTU per pound, so a good % moisture #
    is needed too.
    May call me the AK forestry dept next week.


    80% probably a better efficiency number
    With a 1-1/2 old cat combustor, new BK 1107 stove # is 82.5%.

    Am impressed with the 3 year seasoned birch.
    Lights fast, gets up to temp fast, burns down good,
    & on low burns , it burn clean & long with good heat output.
     
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    With your softer wood, what are the max burn times you get from the King? 30?
     
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    Shoulder season, 30 to 36 hours of heat.
    2 days with hot coals and the stove warm .

    Now hanging around 20°,
    16 to 18 hrs, then a few splits to get thru until 10/11pm for a new full load

    The one I just weighed went 17 hrs, still lot of
    Charcoal & heat , added 2 splits & got to 1030 tonight
     
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    Dave, would a 12 hour schedule work for you?
     
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    17 hour burn would be an average of right around 35,000 BTU's per hour usable.
     
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    I think output numbers are overstated. Before I replaced my exterior walls in the room that the stove is in, I had baseboard electric resistance heat of about 40K btu/hr. IMO and hardly scientific, there is no way the King does that on average over a burn cycle.
     
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    Could make several schedules work.
    Any thing over about 10 hours.
    After 17 hours, rake the coals, throw on a few splits, good until the night loading.

    I like the full load & not have to mess with it but one time where I rake the coals,
    then decide how much I need to throw in to get a good burn down, heat & get to 10 PM.

    But I could add less wood & get shorter burns. Might try it when the weather is a bit a warmer.
    15°f now. House 73°. (12-1/2 hours into the burn) to warm for me, good for everyone else.

    Still learning & the weather don't like to stay consistent.
    Weather man has been off by about 10°, they said 4° for last night, was 14° :)

    Gotta go outside & plow , cool down a bit. It's hot in here LOL :)

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    To be -2°f tonight.
    Shorter, Hotter burn, higher BTU output.
    May try to weigh another load tonight.
     
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    84.7 lbs for tonight's load at 9:15
    Cat up to temp @ 9:30 PM,
    Blower 50%, stat on 2.4 (my setting for OAT of zero°)
    11° now, forecast to go to -4°f,
    house 74°, to warm

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    9:30 AM. 12 hour burn & still cranking out good heat.
    OAT -3° f, house 73°
    Estimate 4 more hours of heat from what's left in the stove.

    Fun when a plan works, weather forecast -4°, got -3.
    Stove setting perfect
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    Few hours before the sun comes over the mts
    Daylight, cold crisp air, calm, -3
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    Stove heat output just dropped off to where it won't keep up at -2°, 11:15 AM

    Raked coals forward, added a split to burn down the medium amount of coals & keep heat cranking.
    Near 14 hours of good heat.
    OAT -2°f, house 72°

    Sun will be over the mts soon. Hope it gets above Zero :)
     
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    Sun just now hitting the tops of the trees :)

    Stove back to cranking

    Still -2°f, My oven can heat an insulated house with 40°f OATs :rofl: :lol:
     
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    Whats OATS....Sorry dummy here...:)
     
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    OATs, Outside Air Temperatures

    Read or heard it somewhere & thought it was funny

    Was something like "at 40° my oven will heat my house"
    Still think it's funny, Alaska humor. :rofl: :lol:

    Above 40° at night who runs their stove ?
    40s our summer temps when it's dark. Solar gain & cooking overcomes that pretty easy.
     
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    Got up to 2.4° f OAT , then started getting cloudy / foggy

    2250 sq ft house at 73°. Stove heated space.
    Added 21.2 lbs of splits (3) to the stove.
    Little over 104 lbs so far.

    NG heater in the garage set for 40° )
     
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    I have built a small fire with overnight lows as high as mid 50'sF. No solar gain for my house. The oven would do it but I'm not going to use it to heat with.
     
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