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Possible upgrade to a PH

Discussion in 'Modern EPA Stoves and Fireplaces' started by Blue Merle, Jan 25, 2015.

  1. Blue Merle

    Blue Merle

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    We're thinking about upgrading and wanted to see how the PH will sit on the hearth. Can anyone help me with these dimensions? I'm looking for the dimensions of the bottom cast.
    Thanks! Progressdimension.jpg
     
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    You guys are killn me:hair:....great choice:dancer:......im gonna git me one too:dex:
     
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    Per manual for the PH:
    Corner installation with rear heat shield on stove: From stove base corner (nearest red marking to wall on your diagram):12inches (determines placement)
    Pipe to side walls =6 inches (UL Listed close clearance pipe)
    Pipe to corner point directly behind stove +6 inches (UL listed close clearance pipe)
    These are clearances with back vent. They don't list clearances for top vent, but it would be the same, because that side wall measurement determines placement.
    Depth 25 inches
    Width 31 inches
    Corner hearth pad:
    Minimum hearth pad with a corner installation must be 54 inches x 54 inches (with the front corner cut off).
    Calculating a corner hearth pad per NFPA211:
    A=C x 1.414 + W/2 + D +Front Hearth requirement
    A= distance from corner to front of hearth pad
    C= Clearance from rear corner of appliance to wall (12 " with rear heat shield)
    1.414 is a constant
    W/2 = half the appliance width (15.25")
    D = Appliance depth (25")
    Front hearth clearance =12 " (this can be reduced is necessary by adding the ash lip, I think to 8 inches)

    A=12 x 1.414 +15.25 +25 +12 = 69.25 inches
     
  4. Flamestead

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    A 23"
    B 30"
    C 23"
    D 19"
    E 5.5"
     
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  5. Blue Merle

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    Thank you!
     
  6. Blue Merle

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    Flamestead- is the number for "D" you gave me from the top cast or bottom cast. I drew the footprint per your numbers on a piece of resin paper but the outlet for the stove pipe doesn't look right when I compare it to pics of the PH. I'm trying to figure out if top venting with a straight shot to my existing ceiling box will give me the required clearances, so I need to locate the center of the pipe outlet. Can you give me from center of stove top to center of pipe opening? Sorry to be a pain in the rear...and thank you for your help!
     
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    "D" would be the cast at the top. "A" is the cast at the bottom of the stove, which sticks out a bit further. Use A (cast at the bottom of stove) to set your 12" from back corners. Mine is corner located, and I'm at 12 1/2" from either back corner. If I had the space, I would move it to 13 or 14" from the back corners. My slate tile off those back corners gets pretty hot. The slate I used is a dark metallic grey, which picks up and holds heat because of it's color and metallic properties.

    Anyway, this drawing should help. Woodstock sent me this prior to my install:

    Progress Dimmensions.jpg
     
  8. Woody Stover

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    That Keystone would make a nice upgrade for my SIL too, from her Dutchwest. I'll give ya 500 bucks for it, if you ship it.... ;)
     
  9. Blue Merle

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    Thanks for all your help... I have all the numbers now.
     
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    Based on Machria's post it looks like I was off a bit - the stove was rather warm and I tried measuring with yardsticks - hope it didn't throw you off too much. 19" from the center of the top vent to the top front casting is pretty close.
     
  11. My IS heats my home

    My IS heats my home

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    Why the upgrade BM?
     
  12. Blue Merle

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    We need more heat when the high doesn't get above freezing. The majority of the house is in the low 60's if the outside temp doesn't get above 32 or so.. a little too chilly for us. Turning on the furnace is always an option, but its almost a challenge for us to see how far we can make it through the winter without it. The forecast for early next week is bitter cold, so I think that time will be here soon. We made it 3 weeks longer than last year!
     
  13. My IS heats my home

    My IS heats my home

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    Good reasons to move up and sticking with what you know (WS) is always good too.
    I think you'll enjoy the PH, heard nothing but good things and from my point of
    view the hybrids (like my IS) are great, hard working stoves.
     
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    Merle, I think you will be very happy if you get the Progress. I keep thinking of Tony out in Mass. He had a Fireview and struggled with it. So he sold it and got a Progress. He said the biggest difference he noticed right away was all the heat it gives out the front of the stove (bigger window) but now he stays warm. I've talked with a few others that did the same thing. They are all happy.
     
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    Yup as usual Dennis is accurate.

    We replaced the Fireview with the Progress and WOW was that a good decision. We now get quicker heat on reloads, and I don't have to get up at 2 am on cold nights to reload anymore. The burn times are fantastic when fully loaded with oak - an easy 12-14 hours with good heat.

    I also added the Palladian to the opposite side of the house this year - now the whole bottom floor is a toasty 70F even when it's 10 degrees out.