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What a waste

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  1. jo191145

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    Not sure if anyone can see this. If this link will work.
    Ticks me off.


    There’s a program in Hartford to turn waste wood into firewood. Puts the homeless etc. to work.
    On the other side of town they’re turning nice logs into a pile of chips. This helps carbon footprint how?
     
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    At least burn the chips to generate power
     
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    Yup, there’s a lot of thinkers in the state capitol.


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  4. buZZsaw BRAD

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    Thats a great question Joe! Kinda makes ya wonder doesnt it?
    Ive seen the same type of grinder at our compost center.
     
  5. billb3

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    carbon storage - LOL

    it's a good way to deal with stumps vs burying them
    but perfectly good firewood as feedstock is sad
     
  6. timusp40

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    Same type of thing happens here in our area. I remember posting about this awhile back.
    They were clearing a area probably a acre or close for a shopping center. Tub chipper ( they said bowl chipper) was used to devour whole trees. Some were over 8" in diameter. That monster could eat 3 or 4 trees at the same time. I asked about why not selling the wood or at least offering some of the wood for free. Nope, insurance liability and they get more $$$ making mulch.
     
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    They do always like to preach this about liability but it makes one wonder where they actually come up with the facts to support this.
     
  8. MAF143

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    I'm curious as to what products are made from the wood chips. I would think there would be some commercial reason(s) for developing and investing in machines that can make shreds of fine looking logs. I myself prefer solid wood furniture, quarter sawn trim boards, etc...

    I know OSB is the go to sheets in construction and a lot of the younger folks prefer press board furniture from IKEA or on line... I've even seen a few pallets come into our shop made of pressed wood fiber in resin/plastic???

    I'm not sure where those chipper "wood by-products" end up or what their commercial use may be, but I wouldn't think they're dumping them in a landfill are they??? o_O :(
     
  9. FatBoy85

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    Depends on the condition of the wood. Even partially rotting works out well. Best if it is rotting that the wood will become chipped remains for flower beds than firewood, seems less mess that way.
    I believe that a tub that grinds up trees is a lesser liability than a bunch of chainsaws. Less variable of human error? No that I support perfectly good firewood being chipped but if there’s money to be made, less processing time since the turnaround rate is almost immediate with chips.
     
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    No the link to the YouTube channel said they were using the chips for assistance in vegetation control. I don’t know if hogsfuel is the term since I don’t see its size.
     
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    It comes from cases like suing McDonalds because your fat $&):mad:&$ a$$ cant say no to super size and fries, taking them to court and winning because you spilled coffee on yourself that was “hot” or the burglar that sues the homeowner when he falls and breaks his leg in your house at 3:00 in the morning threatening the safety of your family. So actually I dont blame them at all. Some a$$hole goes in there with a chainsaw and cuts himself, pulls his back out or trips and gets a splinter he gets a million dollars. People are a$$holes. These kind people that let me in there property and allow me to get trees to help better my family are saints, if i were to get hurt or cut myself thats on me, taking them to court would be the last thing on my mind. I broke my leg at Asplundh and they paid me my full pay plus my overtime so I wouldnt be short on pay. I could have sued them. They took care of me, my parents didnt raise me that way. Lazy a$$holes make me sick. Wow sorry, i do feel better now
     
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    Should not let the grinder bother you to much I worked landclearing for many years had a 27 inch chipper and we chipped up to 10 -12 tractor trailer loads of chips a day for mulch or fuel for a power plant people would come and cut firewood when we were not there always left a mess and cut logs that were piled to be sent to the mill liability was a big issue so we could not give permission for people to cut firewood Almost all residential tree services chip more firewood in a day than most people could burn they all have at least 12 inch chippers some in my area have 18 inch and they chip whatever fits just so they do not have to deal with the wood One of my customers had a employee take his finger off with a splitter doing firewood he does no firewood processing at all any more it either gets chipped or hauled to the recycle yard at least the town is grinding all the wood waste and not just landfilling the logs JB
     
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    I agree, iv used excavators to put trees in chippers. I have no problem with that as long as its being used for something. The liability thing struck a nerve Thanks JB Sawman
     
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    They cleared land for the local Walmart construction a few years back. Maybe 10-12 acres? A mix of black cherry, black locust and cottonwood. I stopped by the site and asked if I could take, or even buy, a full truckload (like, a full triaxle log truck and trailer load) of the cherry and black locust. Some of the trees were over 24" in diameter. The foreman said I was about the 15th or 20th person to ask about taking wood and the answer was always the same - NO. Apparently a company actually bid on the right to take all the wood, including stumps, run it through a tub grinder on site, and transport the loads of chips 150 miles to a power plant near Boston. One of the larger hospitals, I think. By the time they were done out there, it looked like a freshly tilled cornfield, and not a single stick of wood left that property.

    If I could have gotten my hands on a full log truck of that wood, it would have given me immediate justification to buy a new portable sawmill. Even the locust makes great lumber for outdoor projects, and what wasn't sawlogs could be firewood.
     
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    Lawyers.
     
  16. MAF143

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    Sawmills are cool. I haven't bought a stick of lumber since my neighbor and went together on one... if you have access to a steady supply of logs, go for it.
     
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    I see a couple new businesses here selling filter sock for erosion control. We have to use it all the time around our job sites. And it's expensive!

    It's just wood chips in a mesh sock. It prevents muddy water from running off the site and into sensitive areas...supposedly...
     
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    Jon E just to let you know most of the sawing I do on my mill is black locust I buy it for .55 a bd ft and the retail is 2.60-3.30 a bdft so if you do ever think about a mill you can make a return on the money spent by the way those prices are green as sawn off mill JB
     
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    I used to own a Woodmizer mill and sold it, been thinking for several years I needed another mill. I just want it for sawing lumber for my own use, so return on investment will be through not needing to buy lumber anymore. I wish I could buy locust logs around here but it's very hard to find in sizes big enough to saw.
     
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    Burlington VT has a chip burning plant that produces electricity.. McNeill plant. Chips that are little more rotted or whatever get mixed with Manure and leaves grass clippings etc at the compost facility and sold back to flatlanders as moo-dirt
     
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