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Firewood sellers: moisture rule in Fairbanks

Discussion in 'The Wood Pile' started by bogydave, Aug 21, 2017.

  1. bogydave

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    Fairbanks area residents getting notices on wood moisture

    For sellers only
    Trying to reduce pollution
    Doubt it will achieve the desired results & clean the air in Fairbanks
    But they are going in the right direction

    I think it says over 20% moisture is "wet wood"
    & illegal to sell

    From my experience, for birch, that'll take 2 years after split & stacked
     
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    I see good things and bad things about that
    One thing, firewood prices might go up
     
  3. bogydave

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    Yea,
    like what Regan said :
    "It really scares people when they hear"
    """We're from the government & we're here to help" "":bug:
     
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    I wonder if they can sell unseasoned wood if they state, that it is unseasoned .
    Might defeat the purpose of the rule but seems kind of messed up, if you can only sell wood under 20%.
    What about selling logs?
     
  5. stuckinthemuck

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    Could be viewed as consumer protection. I'm amazed at the amount of thick blue smoke I see coming out of my neighbors' chimneys due to unseasoned wood while my chimney emits just some heat waves.. If the change allows more people to burn more days during the winter, it could be seen as a success. Hopefully it pushes the less scrupulous sellers out of the market while educating the less knowledgeable wood burners.
     
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    I had seen that Dave and the first thing that came to mind is, how is the moisture measured? Just stick it into the end of a log that has been sitting in the sun for a few days? I can see how it would be difficult to police too. But, I guess they are trying.
     
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    They tried similar in Vermont to ensure low moisture content they mandated it be kiln-dried so that $400 a cord luckily that's only for low income individuals that get State assistance for heat

    So who it really ends up hurting is the prepared wood hoarder that's trying to buy wood for future years
     
  8. bogydave

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    IMO
    A good "wood burning education program" would do more than a new Gov't law.
    Or
    If you burn wood in the area with the air quality issues,
    you have to attend a wood burning class, get a permit ( like the hunter safety classes).
    Then teach , demonstrate, & compare wet wood burning to dry wood burning in a wood stove in the class. Show how you'd need less wood, get more heat & burn cleaner with dry wood.
    They'd get the point across better.

    !!** Hire Dennis (AKA: Backwoods Savage) to give an annual class, teaching proper wood seasoning & burning ** !!
    :yes:
     
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    Not only is this difficult to police, how do they know that the piece of wood someone selling that was split and tested from the same pile? Hell they could just have 3 split pieces and just said "18.6 ,17.9 and 18.2" for 'legal recording/documentation' but in no way would this be highly regulated because enforcement budget would seem stretched as it is.
     
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    Sounds like a perfect opportunity to become a black market wood smuggler! Like the moonshiners of old! :stacke::drunk:
     
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    He could also teach the proper way to split ;)
     
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    Ashwatcher begs to differ.:rofl: :lol:
     
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    Ugh, yeah...better let me or Horkn handle the splitting class....:cool:
     
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    Perhaps we could teach a class together?! That would confuse a few...
     
  17. bogydave

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    It would take both Ashwatcher & Horkn to keep up with you.
    But they need to learn the best way to split too :rofl: :lol::rofl: :lol:
    :D
     
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    20 is the golden rule but I wonder what the fine is if one of the pieces u sell is over.
    Firemarshal Bill, let me show u somthin!!
     
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    That's gonna cost ya!!
     

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