When I went to Lowe's the other day, grabbing a new garden hose, I saw the bags of fat wood for sale in the grill aisle. It says to use these to start a grill but I have my doubts. Mainly if you wait until the fire is hot as can be its likely fine. Mostly since pine isn't desirable at all in a grill for cooking, just wondered if anyone used these for that purpose? Rather they be used in a stove that heats up more than a grill for my purpose and two sticks of fat wood goes a long long way...try skewer stick size. The charcoal chimney and paper is enough here.