In loving memory of Kenis D. Keathley 6/4/81 - 3/27/22 Loving father, husband, brother, friend and firewood hoarder Rest in peace, Dexterday

Whats difference between: MS-362, 362 C and 362-CM ?

Discussion in 'Chainsaws and Power Equipment' started by Machria, Oct 28, 2014.

  1. CTYank

    CTYank

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2014
    Messages:
    360
    Likes Received:
    850
    Location:
    CT Panhandle
    Gotta guess you guys don't know about the northern German saw mfg? In Hamburg?

    Having seen how useful stihl's warranty was on a bud's 441, I'd control my enthusiasm.
     
  2. splitoak

    splitoak

    Joined:
    May 12, 2014
    Messages:
    1,291
    Likes Received:
    2,459
    Location:
    jefferson co wv
    I have a little hp ultra left..i think im gonna change to royal purple:)..
     
  3. the GOAT

    the GOAT Banned

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2013
    Messages:
    1,399
    Likes Received:
    2,659
    Location:
    Maine
    Anything less then sae 30 at 16:1 is a compromise.
     
    DexterDay and mdavlee like this.
  4. Machria

    Machria

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2013
    Messages:
    2,426
    Likes Received:
    4,982
    Location:
    Long Island, NY
    Yea right! Why not just mount a chain to the sprocket of a motorcycle and carry that around! ;) I am/trying to keep this light weight, most of my work is on smaller stuff.

    What brand would that be? I was in Hamburger and Franfuter 2 weeks ago. (I work for a German company).

    16:1 ??????? I would think that is a bit much, and would probably affect the performance of the motor, no? That's a lot of oil.
     
    mdavlee likes this.
  5. Machria

    Machria

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2013
    Messages:
    2,426
    Likes Received:
    4,982
    Location:
    Long Island, NY
    You referring to Solo ?
     
  6. lukem

    lukem

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2013
    Messages:
    11,142
    Likes Received:
    57,501
    Location:
    IN
    That's what they used to run "back in the day". Wouldn't hurt the performance of your saw much, but it would make a lot of smoke.
     
  7. MasterMech

    MasterMech The Mechanical Moderator

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2013
    Messages:
    9,523
    Likes Received:
    25,467
    Location:
    Greenville County SC
    Perhaps but most likely Dolmar as he's a very happy Dolmar 6100 owner.
     
    mdavlee likes this.
  8. splitoak

    splitoak

    Joined:
    May 12, 2014
    Messages:
    1,291
    Likes Received:
    2,459
    Location:
    jefferson co wv
    What happened?
     
  9. mdavlee

    mdavlee

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2013
    Messages:
    4,380
    Likes Received:
    10,478
    16:1 works for max power. Better ring seal with more oil.

    I was kidding about the 661.
     
  10. CTYank

    CTYank

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2014
    Messages:
    360
    Likes Received:
    850
    Location:
    CT Panhandle
    I have this tendency to speak for myself, thanks.

    It seems to me that Dolmar's/Makita's business model involves much more free & open competition than the folks in Waiblingen want. Results in much better product values in the 40-60 cc region, IMO. Much simpler service access, too. Think pulling a carb or a top-end. Much longer warranty coverage FWIW.

    About the value of stihl warranty:
    Bit back a bud bought a 441 for milling. Said it "cost $1K". After a few tankfuls, it burped and died. Turns out a spherical piece of debris popped back from muffler and got caught between piston & port edge. Dealer said it was out of warranty coverage (yer 3 mos are up), AND would cost more to fix than it's worth. May you never have to r&r p&c on one of those, ever. I'm told that 362 is similar nightmare. Bizarre design, unless it's meant to exclude non-dealers.

    I realize that this is after the fact in the current thread, but if it helps even one it was worth it.

    So, IMO a Dolmar 6100 is a much better value than a 362, it's more easily serviced, there's no clandestine operation needed for an IPL, yada, yada.
    You could say they're responsive to what buyers want, product and value. In that regard, Stihl has nothing on them for 40 & 50 cc either.

    It's all relative.
     
  11. 94BULLITT

    94BULLITT

    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2014
    Messages:
    2,446
    Likes Received:
    7,181
    Location:
    Frederick County, VA
    If your bud wants to throw that 441 away since it would cost too much to repair I'll take it;)
     
  12. DexterDay

    DexterDay Administrator

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2013
    Messages:
    12,411
    Likes Received:
    31,624
    Location:
    Northeast Oh
    I'll take 2nd in line ;)

    To much to repair. . LOL.
     
  13. Machria

    Machria

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2013
    Messages:
    2,426
    Likes Received:
    4,982
    Location:
    Long Island, NY
    I'll take third in line! If you guys don't end up taking it, let me take it! :D That would make a great 3rd saw for a big bar.

    I know nothing about Dolmar, but there sure are a lot of interesting saw brands out there. Those Solo's look suspiciously like Stihl's?? Wonder if an engineer left and went "solo" with the design? OR is it an OEM brand, anyone know?
     
  14. DexterDay

    DexterDay Administrator

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2013
    Messages:
    12,411
    Likes Received:
    31,624
    Location:
    Northeast Oh
    Solo looks like Dolmar..

    Because they are kind of one and the same.. The Solo has a 65 cc Closed port jug, the Dolmar is a 64 cc Open port jug. The Solo has a 1 mm longer stroked crank which makes it 1 cc larger. It also uses a closed port cylinder, over the open port of the Dolmar/Makita

    Here is a Dolmar 6400 and a Solo 665..

    Dolmar 6400 (Makita 6401 also shown. Same saw as Dolmar)

    20140605_210228.jpg
    20140605_210346.jpg
    20140618_172056.jpg


    Solo 665

    20140717_204345.jpg
    20140717_204517.jpg
     
    Chvymn99 likes this.
  15. Machria

    Machria

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2013
    Messages:
    2,426
    Likes Received:
    4,982
    Location:
    Long Island, NY
    How is Makita, they make a good saw?
     
  16. DexterDay

    DexterDay Administrator

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2013
    Messages:
    12,411
    Likes Received:
    31,624
    Location:
    Northeast Oh
    Yep. Same as Dolmar. :)

    You can find good used models at HD for cheap.
     
  17. Machria

    Machria

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2013
    Messages:
    2,426
    Likes Received:
    4,982
    Location:
    Long Island, NY
  18. DexterDay

    DexterDay Administrator

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2013
    Messages:
    12,411
    Likes Received:
    31,624
    Location:
    Northeast Oh
    That's not a 665, but there are several good models of Solo out there. Awesome saws is what they are!! :dex:
     
  19. the GOAT

    the GOAT Banned

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2013
    Messages:
    1,399
    Likes Received:
    2,659
    Location:
    Maine
  20. the GOAT

    the GOAT Banned

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2013
    Messages:
    1,399
    Likes Received:
    2,659
    Location:
    Maine
    The ms 362 is awesome. And rocks though.:yes::rootintootin::rootintootin::handshake: